Garuda Extreme Mode

[Lokus]

Quick question for yall that actually Farm this.

Why's it some tard groups decide for MT to take Suparna first? Not only that, but Take Suparna, and go North/South (kinda irrelevant but highly innefficient, considering their spawn points during the first pop.)

Every time we do it in FC though, I take Chirada(tank east) while OT takes Suparna. Shit goes smooth like butter. Also, hate taking Suparna(with Garuda) at any point cuz of that gd stupid Jump move. Makes me have to Focus Target all over again.

Until this thread and some random pugs I've done, I never even knew about that teleport thing that Garuda and Suprana do. We always have the MT take Garuda and Chirada to the east while the OT takes Suprana to the west. We kill Suprana > OT grabs Chirada and moves it south or just keeps it place > Kill Chirada > back to Garuda. Tornado phase, mages/ranged go SW, OT with Suprana NW and MT with Garuda/Chirada SE.

[BerenTebogo]

I still prefer tanking Garuda + Suparna together. Having not-shit gear and using CDs makes double WW laughable.

And rampart + foresight + bulwark (what I use for WW) will ALWAYS be up before next WW.

[Petitssk]

I still prefer tanking Garuda + Suparna together. Having not-shit gear and using CDs makes double WW laughable.

And rampart + foresight + bulwark (what I use for WW) will ALWAYS be up before next WW.

Agreed, we do it the same way. WW is predictable and, more often than not, Chirada goes down before Suparna and Garuda get to that point anyway. Even if she doesn't, the damage can be managed with a little preparation (and double WW looks quite cool).

[Mabubeezareel]

Any real negatives to splitting DPS on the sisters when there's a melee in the group? IE, if there's 3 ranged + 1 melee, then have 2 of the ranged on one sister the melee + the other ranged on the other? Or 50/50 on both sisters if you go with 2 melee. All of the groups that I've been in as DRG insist on having all 4 DPS on the OT's sister first, even when I've requested to have at least 1 DPS on the MT's sister to account for my much maligned DPS-loss when having to walk through tornadoes + run around like a fucking monkey trying to get into position for combos + avoiding WW.

[Jem]

Yes. They give buffs to each other/Garuda by being alive and by splitting damage you're prolonging those buffs and also increasing the overall amount you're taking. I believe one of those buffs is a defensive boost so splitting damage will lower overall DPS. Plus if you down 1 sister quickly, you can have the OT take the other sister off the MT to reduce likelihood of them dying.

I've never personally seen the teleport thing but I assume killing 1 sister quick enough prevents that from happening too.

[Raldo]

In case anyone's curious...

Suparna puts a physical and magical stoneskin effect (not sure why it's split into two buffs, but it is) on Garuda that prevents her from taking damage. Does she also slowly heal while this sister is up like in HM? I don't know.

I'm told Chirada gives Garuda the Wicked Wheel ability. I can't actually confirm this, since my FC always kills Chirada last, so we don't really know exactly what she does. Does she also make Garuda stronger while this sister is up like in HM? I don't know.


I'm not frequently a melee DPS, so I don't know if these actually work for bypassing tornadoes and/or have the range for it, but Spineshatter Dive / Shoulder Tackle should get you from one sister to the other quickly, and these actions should be up for every Sister phase. Though I will agree that you do lose some DPS avoiding WW.

[Xanthe]

In case anyone's curious...

Suparna puts a physical and magical stoneskin effect (not sure why it's split into two buffs, but it is) on Garuda that prevents her from taking damage. Does she also slowly heal while this sister is up like in HM? I don't know.

I'm told Chirada gives Garuda the Wicked Wheel ability. I can't actually confirm this, since my FC always kills Chirada last, so we don't really know exactly what she does. Does she also make Garuda stronger while this sister is up like in HM? I don't know.


I'm not frequently a melee DPS, so I don't know if these actually work and/or have the range for it, but Spineshatter Dive / Shoulder Tackle should get you from one sister to the other quickly, and these actions should be up for every Sister phase.

Suprana gives Whicked Wheel. Chirada gives the damage reduction.

[Mabubeezareel]

Suprana gives Whicked Wheel. Chirada gives the damage reduction.

Wouldn't it make sense to kill Suparna first then? All my groups go for Chirada first.

[Sylvrdragon]

Wouldn't it make sense to kill Suparna first then? All my groups go for Chirada first.

The reason most groups kill Chirada first is because of the swap. If you have enough damage to kill Suparna before that happens, then it could be perfectly viable to kill her first, but if you can't do it in time, then the mob you're trying to kill might suddenly jump and reappear on the opposite side of the room, and leave you with a very angry Garuda who is about to WW your OT and any melee that were beating on Suparna a second ago (she uses WW just a few seconds after she lands, as does Suparna).

[Slycer]

Garuda doesn't regen from either of the sisters being up in extreme mode. Also worth noting that she continues to take damage from DoT effects (you can see her HP bar tick down if you watch it) even while the physical and magical stoneskin effects from Suparna are active. The only time she is completely immune to damage is the few seconds while she is readying Aerial Blast and a second or two after. And yeah, what Sylvr said above is the only good reason I can think of to kill Chirada first. I've had plenty of successful runs killing Suparna first so long as the DPS can get her down before they swap places.

[Raldo]

Suprana gives Whicked Wheel. Chirada gives the damage reduction.

Now I'm super confused. I'm almost positive that Suparna gives the stoneskin effects, so unless you're saying Chirada gives some other type of damage reduction...?


Also, I've never seen "the swap", even on shit runs where our DPS has failed to kill any of the sisters at all. We always hold Suparna on the other side of the map as Garuda. Is there some kind of max range on this supposed move, or can it only be used if Chirada dies first?

[solracht]

Haven't done the fight in like two weeks but:

-Garuda can Wicked Wheel as long as one sister is alive. Suparna has access to a Wicked Wheel of her own, but Chirada doesn't.
-The position swap only happens between Suparna and Garuda
-Chirada grants Suparna a damage reduction effect based on distance
-Suparna grants Garuda a double stoneskin effect

[Ratatapa]

Tried tanking this for the first time and I got some problems

How do you know Wicked wheel is coming? always after Teleport or?

2) People tells me that you can dodge both Wicked whell 100% is that true? (as tank)

[AkirraKrylon]

Seeing the "OT takes Suparna, kill Suparna first" thing more and more lately but literally every time I've killed Garuda it was always OT takes Chirada Southeast and MT takes Garuda and Suparna NW. DPS focus down Chirada pretty quickly then everyone goes to Suparna. MT mitigates double WW with cooldowns and its all good.

If OT takes Suparna, doesn't it screw things up when Garuda/Sup jump and switch places?

[Raldo]

If OT takes Suparna, doesn't it screw things up when Garuda/Sup jump and switch places?

I've always done the OT takes Suparna NW, MT takes Chirada + Garuda SE. DPS down Suparna first. I have never seen Garuda/Suparna swap places; not even once.

How do you know Wicked wheel is coming? always after Teleport or?

2) People tells me that you can dodge both Wicked whell 100% is that true? (as tank)

The first Wicked Wheel (i.e. when the rocks are still up) always occurs shortly after the sisters use Friction. Once the rocks are down and the Tornadoes are going, Wicked Wheel always occurs shortly after Suparna uses Slipstream (or is it Friction here too? I forget). Things may be different if you're downing Chirada first; I don't know anything about that method. I've never tried to dodge Wicked Wheel as a tank, but I imagine it would be particularly difficult once tornadoes are up and limiting your movement options. The only dodging advice I've heard is for melee DPS.

[Grey Jorildyn]

I've always done the OT takes Suparna NW, MT takes Chirada + Garuda SE. DPS down Suparna first. I have never seen Garuda/Suparna swap places; not even once.

Same. No idea what people are talking about.

edit: zomg 4k posts!

[Jaybar]

I've always done the OT takes Suparna NW, MT takes Chirada + Garuda SE. DPS down Suparna first. I have never seen Garuda/Suparna swap places; not even once.

Same. No idea what people are talking about.

Perhaps your group is good enough with DPS to not worry about it? The first sister set always swaps for our group but we've done it the "old fashioned" route with OT taking Chirada. I don't think we've tried OT+Suparna yet.

[Raldo]

I'd be more inclined to say that they just don't swap if they're far enough apart, but that's just a guess on my part. We've had some pretty slow DPS on runs where people got themselves killed (so much that we fail because the sisters aren't killed in time). If it was just a speed issue, I think we would've seen it on one of these crappy runs.

[RoninWoof]

My groups always have OT take Suprana first to break that Stoneskin right away, so Garuda just takes constant damage sooner. Just seems to make the rounds shorter for us. The first time I heard that the sisters swap places is from Mr Happy's video. Even in random Pugs where the groups were just god awful, i have never seen the sisters swap places.

Perhaps they lose the ability to teleport if they are far enough apart? (1 buff) Because I just have never seen Suprana teleport when pulled first. In fact, I dont think I have seen Garuda Teleport either. I've only seen her teleport when Suprana was with her.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Perhaps they lose the ability to teleport if they are far enough apart? (1 buff)

Definitely not this. Unless it's just a Suparna is far enough from Garuda thing, which I doubt because that's the whole point of the teleport.