Brave Frontier (iOS/Android)

[Tyrath]

An oracle unit is better than no unit.

[Rizil]

So I caved in and used some summon tickets (yes, I know, I'm weak...) and I pulled a Semira (A) Sodis (B) and Eva (O). Well, I did need more light units, the Semira one though is kinda w/e.

[hey]

An oracle unit is better than no unit.

Sure but why are you comparing to nothing?If you only have one healer, or one damage mitigator, or something, then sure, use it if you have no alternative, but otherwise you can't look at things like that. It's not oracle or nothing, or oracle X or anime/lord/anything else Y. It doesn't matter if something isn't too bad, it needs to be better than your alternatives, or it's worthless, and oracle will drop everything down at least a tier.

[Day]

Its not nearly that big of a deal lol. What diff does Oracle make when you can 1 shot everything in the game. Not like it lowers attack.

[Tyrath]

Sure but why are you comparing to nothing?If you only have one healer, or one damage mitigator, or something, then sure, use it if you have no alternative, but otherwise you can't look at things like that. It's not oracle or nothing, or oracle X or anime/lord/anything else Y. It doesn't matter if something isn't too bad, it needs to be better than your alternatives, or it's worthless, and oracle will drop everything down at least a tier.

It's not as drastic a drop as you make it sound, that's why. If you want a unit, and you have an Oracle it's still better than not having that unit even if you have others that fulfill that role. I have an oracle Elza and she is sure as hell better than my Luther and Douglas. Plus with hp imps the Oracle Hp problem is completely made up for.

[hey]

Its not nearly that big of a deal lol. What diff does Oracle make when you can 1 shot everything in the game. Not like it lowers attack.

Usually about 1k difference between oracle and anima. That's a pretty big deal.

It's not as drastic a drop as you make it sound, that's why. If you want a unit, and you have an Oracle it's still better than not having that unit even if you have others that fulfill that role. I have an oracle Elza and she is sure as hell better than my Luther and Douglas. Plus with hp imps the Oracle Hp problem is completely made up for.

You can't one shot everything in the game. And for things you can, the same thing applies to guardian, the other worse than useless type for anything that attacks. Imps don't make up for it, you're always going to be behind. Sometimes they're still worth using, but not always.

[Tyrath]

But theres literally no content you can't do with an oracle unit. You make it sound so awful when the reality is that Lord is the default stat. Anima is just a +600~ boost whereas Oracle is a -300~ negative. ALL units are viable as Oracle.

[Teknique]

Well my themis with a medulla is sitting at 6100 HP. and thats pathetic considering on drevas AND vargas level 3, i had mitigation up, full hp. and both my narza (5 star) (7220 hp) and my themis(6 star) both died in a single turn. They were my number one deaths during those two fights. These units are basically worthless when they die in a single turn with mitigation, and people expect me to be able to do maxwell with these? (aside from the grah, or double grah which is 40% hp)
Killed lance level 3, only took me 3 gems as opposed to the 10 i needed for vargas. Had luther and ultor for fire, and a assassin kujah (or whatever dude with Hades SBB) for friend. Helped immensely, But fuck those units that take 1 damage occasionaly. Fucked me over many a time

[hey]

But theres literally no content you can't do with an oracle unit. You make it sound so awful when the reality is that Lord is the default stat. Anima is just a +600~ boost whereas Oracle is a -300~ negative. ALL units are viable as Oracle.

Well duh, with the right units you can. But not everyone has the best possible team for everything. Don't act like 10-20%~ difference doesn't matter.

Well my themis with a medulla is sitting at 6100 HP. and thats pathetic considering on drevas AND vargas level 3, i had mitigation up, full hp. and both my narza (5 star) (7220 hp) and my themis(6 star) both died in a single turn. They were my number one deaths during those two fights. These units are basically worthless when they die in a single turn with mitigation, and people expect me to be able to do maxwell with these? (aside from the grah, or double grah which is 40% hp)
Killed lance level 3, only took me 3 gems as opposed to the 10 i needed for vargas. Had luther and ultor for fire, and a assassin kujah (or whatever dude with Hades SBB) for friend. Helped immensely, But fuck those units that take 1 damage occasionaly. Fucked me over many a time

Huh? Is it not max level? Oracle themis should have 5628 base hp, or 6753 with medulla. Throw in grah, and it's 7.9k. That's not enough to be happy about, and you could die if she just decides she hates themis, but mostly it should be okay. You can get 500 more hp with 30% hp sphere too. Plus grah has the 15% damage reduction against light types too. Maxwell does a lot of aoe for not a lot of damage, which is really really good for you if you use lilly. It lets you use cures and damage mitigation every turn pretty easily.

Those GGC fights honestly i felt like were much harder than maxwell to survive. They have much much less hp though, so it's not hard to 1 shot them with a half decent crit team, or just kill them before you get unlucky.

[Tyrath]

Well duh, with the right units you can. But not everyone has the best possible team for everything. Don't act like 10-20%~ difference doesn't matter.

No, that's not what I'm saying. At all.

I'm saying that if something can be done with a unit, it can still be done with that unit being Oracle. Any unit ever being oracle will not make a difference in anything you're doing. It will simply give you a larger room for error.

In other news, currently sitting around 600 rank in thunder vortex. Maybe I should keep going ;x

[hey]

It will simply give you a larger room for error.

ie, it can easily make the difference between winning and losing.


Can anyone set leader to lilly, grah, eve, tridon, or something similar? Thunder arena is leaving me without a single useful friend for winter vortex :/

[Kamikazi321]

ie, it can easily make the difference between winning and losing.


Can anyone set leader to lilly, grah, eve, tridon, or something similar? Thunder arena is leaving me without a single useful friend for winter vortex :/

add me 77535519, lead set to Tridon sbb10.

[hey]

You're maxed.

[Day]

Some people just like to argue about the dumbest shit. Oracle is fine. Id set my lily lead for you but its breaker, Id hate for you to not have the optimal typing.

[hey]

Breaker is still better than oracle!

[Teknique]

Ok so level 3 of this holiday shit is evil as fuck. Definitely bringing melchio as leader because fuck these 1 hp hit bullshits.

[Aristio]

I'm saying that if something can be done with a unit, it can still be done with that unit being Oracle. Any unit ever being oracle will not make a difference in anything you're doing. It will simply give you a larger room for error.

To be fair, Oracle Elulu is pretty pathetic HP wise.

But Oracle is viable on almost all units, with few exceptions. Oracle Magress is his best form imo.

[Tyrath]

To be fair, Oracle Elulu is pretty pathetic HP wise.

But Oracle is viable on almost all units, with few exceptions. Oracle Magress is his best form imo.

That's because Lord Elulu is pathetic HP wise.

[Tyrath]

http://www.reddit.com/r/bravefrontie...d_dec_24_2014/

That dark unit. New king of attack buffs incoming.

[hey]

Ok so level 3 of this holiday shit is evil as fuck. Definitely bringing melchio as leader because fuck these 1 hp hit bullshits.

First time i tried with no status immunity, and died after like 10 turns of entire team being pralyzed :D

Only takes like 4 turns without ignore def though, it's not so bad. The third one is hard-ish though, and resets everyone's bb like every turn, making it dumb to auto battle, which is annoying considering how much you need to farm for the spheres.