Brave Frontier (iOS/Android)

[Hushigoshi]

This game while fun for quite a while has lost some of its appeal, lately i have been primarily signing on just so that i wont loose my daily gift bonus. I have been playing FFRC lately.

FFRC doesn't work on jail broken phones sadly otherwise I'd be playing that too.

Same here lol. This past week Ive been auto farming sybils for anima though because I dont know about the Shida life.

I have an anima fire and light Sybil, and breaker water thunder and earth Sybil. Hoping to get an anima dark Sybil before the dungeon closes. Also Vocaloids are back in the RS gate. Meh. Raid seems more stable so I've been farming materials for Malice Jewels as well.

[Veikuri]

What are currently the top 5 6 star units out?

[Hushigoshi]

What are currently the top 5 6 star units out?

Reddit Tier List

edit: to expand... Top Units depends on what role you're looking for. Healer/Status Cleanser, Damage Mitigator, BC Generator, Stat Increase (Attk, Def, Crit), etc etc. Also, if you're playing on the global servers, why ask about 6* units when 7* are being released? Quite a few of the top 6* units are being bumped down tiers by the new 7* units. Yay power creep!

Raid has definitely been a lot stable recently. Prior, auto battle will lead to boss fights taking forever because other teams' units would never damage the boss during your fight unless you turned off auto battle. However, I just did three runs of "God of Ruin" on auto battle and each fight went smoothly with other team unit's dealing burst damage.

[Veikuri]

Interesting. Rosetta is above Zelnite.

[Anakron]

Interesting. Rosetta is above Zelnite.

That sounds about right to me. His BC and HC bonus on LS isn't good enough for single-target boss fights, so his main strength is the BC fill on his normal BB, which is no longer very unique. Rosetta's BC on Spark, however, is incredible on all boss fights.

[Hushigoshi]

Interesting. Rosetta is above Zelnite.

With good reason; like what Anakron said. While I love my Anima Zelnite, I most use him as my lead only when I'm farming quests for items for craftables. Rosetta's Leader Skill to fill BC on Spark (1-2 BC each spark, so a 1.5 average each spark) is a Godsend on pretty much any and all content. Her +80% Spark damage (from SBB) is the highest in the game as well (Only the Fei&Fang combined unit has the same +80% modifier). If you know your unit's attack timing and can spark well, you can spam SBB on pretty much anything for a amazing amount of damage.

The only battle benefit that Zelnite has over Rosetta is the instant 8 BC fill all units receive when activating Zelnite's BB/SBB. This would only apply to fights where the enemy can drain your units' BC and now suddenly your mitigator doesn't have enough BC to activate their BB and you didn't have, or ran out of, Fujin Potions. Also, you don't have to have Zelnite as your lead to accomplish this. Rosetta still wins as leader.

[Nitsuki]

New rate up and 3 gem rare summons fffuuuuu

Edit: seems like no rate up, but the rare summons are 3 gems.

[Tyrath]

Eh, whats the point of summoning without rate ups. The pool is simply too large -_-

[Nitsuki]

Yea, some dude sacrificed 396 gems and said he only got like 10 new units. So yea, hopefully the 3 gem thing is permanent tho.

[Tyrath]

Is it permanent in the JP client?

[Anakron]

Pretty sure it's not permanent. The rates are round 1% for the six new units, so I'm definitely not pulling. There are 1700+ pulls from the reddit spreadsheet alone, so Gumi is winning so far.

But that brings up an interesting point--did JP ever have rate-ups for the 7* units? Assuming you roll the rarity first, and then the unit, Alim/Gumi would really need to increase the rate for 5* gates, because increasing the rates for the 7* units won't help overall rates by much.

[Tyrath]

Honestly what they need to do is either demote some of the rare summons out of the summon pool or create 2 different pools, one cheaper and one more expensive. Its ridiculous to have 100s of things in the same pool.

[Nitsuki]

From what i can recall it is permanent in jp for 3 gem/pull. What tyrath says is something that should be done. I just did 3 yolo pulls just for the lulz and i got all dupes, got trolled by a rainbow door for a fucking useless logan. At least i got an anima vanberk now, not like it matters at this point, i need to raid more to get more malice jewel mats and hope for some burst frogs in slot machines. I need to finish up my 7* magress and fiora and vanberk. It sucks massively cuz rng is still wrecking me in the lugina trial. I want that damn sphere.

Also, we got a new map and 6* sybil sisters! Yay for a few more free gems.

[Anakron]

GungHo solves this in PAD by having massive rate boosts for featured batches.

But you're right, with BF, the more you pull, the less likely you'll get new units later. This is actually very punishing for veterans, since they're more and more likely to get dups the longer they play, and power creep is insane in this game. And unlike PAD, dups are almost always useless (outside of type preferences).

Even if they implement the trade-ins, I still feel like it's a slap in the face since you don't really get anything special.

[Tyrath]

In the BF client news it says 3 gems is only during Apr 17-24.

[Tyrath]

Even with the 3 gem summons, the current rate of NOT getting any new units on Reddit is 93.38%. That is pretty pathetic. They are reaching new money grubbing lows. Kinda getting fed up with it.

I'm gonna do 1 summon for YOLO but thats it.

Edit: Mega Rare door, get excite....Oracle Lidith. Fuck you Gumi.

[Nitsuki]

Yea true, the power creep is ridiculous and it is pretty much to the point where 7*s will be needed for future content. Gumi is at least doing a decent job at trying to keep us up to date w/ current 7*s, elimo 7* batch which includes 7* lava is now in the game data, so the names are now available. We'll see tho. Gumi will be getting shitted on next stream, watch.

[Tyrath]

They took all those suggestions last time and implemented none of them lol.

[Zzsark]

Yea true, the power creep is ridiculous and it is pretty much to the point where 7*s will be needed for future content.

Problem is, in order to need units for future content... the content actually has to get released at some point.

[Anakron]

Ugh, 4000+ pulls from the reddit spreadsheet alone. Yea, Gumi has no incentive to change their ways. They're all for immediate results, because, they, as long as they pull good numbers, developers will keep letting them publish their games.

Are there actually any half-decent mobile publishers, though? Mobage/DeNA gets a lot of hate as well. I think Nexon got the FFXI mobile games, but I've never heard of them.

I imagine most are like Gumi, because mobile games generally don't last very long, so publishers just want to cash in quickly, then move on to the next game.