Brave Frontier (iOS/Android)

[Meian]

I'm busy farming stuff for spheres maybe I'll stop and do some EXP for a bit. I'll have Zeruiah up as lead most of the day once I'm done with FG as well. Trying to break 3m points, currently at 2.88m

I am also pulling like crazy on this banner because elgifs + I really need some more units for CA utility. I made it to summoner rank this week and I'm getting stomped. Once I lose my 11k HP ~4.8k DEF Haile lead everything immediately goes downhill.

The xp in karma is really good because of the half energy you should do it.

13.2k xp for 30 energy karma dungeon VS 8.44 xp 25 energy story dungeon
Vortex Karma 1/2 cost (same xp) 13.2 xp for 15 energy
Story Dungeon double xp (same energy) 16.88 xp for 25 energy
in 5 runs = 66k xp for 75 energy karma VS 42.2 in 125 energy story dungeon.
Karma wins quite a bit here.

This is without Zeruiah btw and in level 4 karma dungeon. I am 205 now and I am pretty much just on the edge of leveling every time guaranteed to keep spamming. So good can get my 7* team it looks XD

[Teknique]

Im level 159 after doing it for like 4 hours.

[BerenTebogo]

Guess I'll stop farming for spheres today and just auto in dungeon. I'm studying for quals anyway so just autoing through RC / arena / dungeons w/o looking all day anyway.

[Tyrath]

Is there someone who reduces light damage taken besides Grah? Trying to come up with 2 teams to take on Ark again.

So far I got:

Charla lead
Tridon
Hadaron
Gazia
Libera
Avant??? friend

Charla lead
Avant
Shera??
Deimos??
????
Reud?? friend


Halp with adjustments.

[Dimmauk]

So, I settled on a Elgif squad that can win 100% but it needs a fujin on the last fight.

Basically all you need is a mitagator, and Raghan or Zenia, or Ruby, and the rest of any of your strongest units. First 2 rounds is about building the Overdrive, then on the Elgif stage, SBB everyone. He usually goes after my Ultor on his turn. Second turn, use overdrive, pop a fujin on the Raghan or Zenia, and normal attack with everyone(you can BB/SBB your mitagator if you dont feel safe). If you dont kill him, he will usually last resort 2 of your units and hopefully not spam geno tablet. Just normal attack next turn and he is dead.

[Tyrath]

I posted something similar way back when they came out

I think we don't need a guide for this vortex anymore... due to Gazia and Zenia.
Three turn squad:
Gazia lead
Zenia
Michele
Libera
Selena
Chrome friend
Turn one: Everyone except Selena goes SBB. Michele > Gazia > Chrome > Libera> Zenia.
Turn two: Zenia UBB (OD and Fujin). Gazia BB/SBB. Everybody normal attack. At this point Elgift should be at 40% HP or below.
Turn three: Finishing move. Gazia BB/SBB for worst case.

[Hushigoshi]

So, I settled on a Elgif squad that can win 100% but it needs a fujin on the last fight.

Basically all you need is a mitagator, and Raghan or Zenia, or Ruby, and the rest of any of your strongest units. First 2 rounds is about building the Overdrive, then on the Elgif stage, SBB everyone. He usually goes after my Ultor on his turn. Second turn, use overdrive, pop a fujin on the Raghan or Zenia, and normal attack with everyone(you can BB/SBB your mitagator if you dont feel safe). If you dont kill him, he will usually last resort 2 of your units and hopefully not spam geno tablet. Just normal attack next turn and he is dead.

He goes after Ultor because of Taunt...

I prefer using Zenia's UBB the first turn against the Elgif, that way everyone benefits from her +500% BB mod on her UBB. Then the next two turns I'll normal attack with everyone (except Ultor, he'll do BB or SBB). This will either kill the Elgif or bring him down somewhere between 1% and 49%. This makes the Elgif trigger Last Resort, which Ultor will eat and survive due to ES and Taunt. Then normal attack the third round of needed. I won't bother with using my mitigator the second round since Ultor will take all the damage.

[Meian]

So, I didn't do the 30 days because I started the game late but I decided to do unit of choice anyway and I just got Charla from it + the Summoner Ticket.

[Hushigoshi]

Lol nice.

In fact, there was someone that won the original event from the Gumi forums.... And also got their UoC. Way to go Gumi...

[BerenTebogo]

Which batch were Charla/Avant/Gazia in? I'd like them but I'm not specifically aiming for them. Feel like soon-ish I'll hit a point where I can pull or pass based on specific unit needs.

[Tyrath]

Avant and Charla are from Avant's batch.

Gazia is from Trial X4. Global exclusive.

[Meian]

I am a bit confused as to when to use Charla or Aurelia over the other since both are fantastic...

Edit: Also, I can use 7* full team yay!

[Hushigoshi]

Use they have slight buff overlap. I'm a little busy at work but I can give a good write up in a few.

[Kachiko]

Here's my impression, to get the juices flowing; Hushi can pistol whip me later, with corrections and more insight:

Charla is a great lead, and also a great sub, while Aurellia is just a great sub. Aurellia is a pure healer, so her role is to keep the party full on HP through her BB's heal-over-time and SBB's spike heal. Charla's job is to buff the living fsk out of our party with just her SSB, which is gives a lot of damage buffs, as well as a good BC on spark buf, and with her BB, which is is purely support, in that it heals, cleanses, and gives BC support. Since they provide fairly unique buffs, and 2x spike heals isn't a bad thing, they can work well together, especially when you need HoT and spike healing in one turn; the extra DPS and BC management are big pluses.

You won't really use them both, on a DPS race team, but when you need a team that can last a marathon, they both help to get the job done.

Also, unrelated, but this:

http://i.imgur.com/G0rGsw0.jpg

[Teknique]

Lmfao that joke was hilarious for the poor bastards that still dont have theirs.
I dont know how much more i can get in levels today before the event/ my break ends, at 162 now, had to get some sleep earlier.

[Hushigoshi]

All right all right all right.... NUMBER CRUNCHING TIME WOO.

So, how do we properly use Aurelia and Charla, and do they play well together!?

long write up following, TL;DR after the spoiler

Spoiler: show

Firstly, lets look at their stats. (using Lord numbers)

Charla
6,700 (1,000) HP (7,700 after Imps)
2,500 (340) ATK (2,840 after Imps)
2,500 (340) DEF (2,840 after Imps)
2,300 (620) REC (2,920 after Imps)

Aurelia
7,125 (1,100) HP (8,225 after Imps)
2,165 (440) ATK (2,605 after Imps)
2,290 (440) DEF (2,730 after Imps)
2,540 (440) REC (2,980 after Imps)

Stat wise, Aurelia will have higher HP and REC, the most important stat between the two of them (used to calculate their Burst Heals). Charla has the better attack and defense.... uhhhhh whoopie. However, Aurelia's attack is important since 1) it's used to calculate the damage done by her DoT on her BB as well as 2) her SBB damage. Defense is defense... so Charla wins here.

So now let's go to the buffs they both share; 3 turn BB fill, 3 turn HoT, and Burst Heal.
Charla has 7 BC/turn, her HoT will heal between 2,500 - 3,000 +15% of target's Rec stat each turn, and her Burst Heal will do between 2,700 - 3,000 + 32.5% of her Rec stat.

Aurelia has 4 BC/turn, her HoT will heal between 2,700 - 3,100 +10% of target's Rec stat each turn, and her Burst Heal will do between 4,700 - 4,500 + 22.5% of her Rec stat.

Obviously Charla wins in the BC/turn department, but what about the other two? Let's use JUST their Lord Stats (including Imps) above (so no stat bonus from spheres/ls/ES/etc) and say that the target for their HoT is for themselves (Charla's HoT on Charla, Aurelia's HoT on Aurelia)

Charla's HoT will recover between 2,938 - 3,438 HP/turn, and her Burst Heal will recover between 3,649 - 3,949 HP.
Aurelia's HoT will recover between 2,998 - 3,398 HP/turn, and her Burst Heal will recover between 4,670 - 5,170 HP.

Between the two of them, their HoT are pretty much equal but Aurelia's Burst Heal is far superior.

Now the issue is that their BC/fill buffs are not in the same placement on their BB and SBB. So when it comes to min/maxing numbers, it's a juggling process. You want to flip flop between Charla's BB and SBB each turn to keep up all her buffs to maximize team damage. This means on turns you want to use Charla's BB, you have to use Aurelia's SBB first, so that way everyone gets the 7 BC fill/turn. However, if you want to keep the 7 BC fill/turn buff on, the next turn you're doing Charla's SBB and Aurelia's BB. This leaves you with NO Burst Heal between the two of them this turn. Hopefully that is not a hinderance and causes a wipe. To solve that, you'd want a third source of burst healing just to be safe (Krantz's SBB and Zeruiah's BB are good sources in this case).

TL;DR Charla is the ultimate utility unit. She provides decent (but not amazing) healing and recovery, and amazing damage buffs to the team. Aurelia is arguably the best healer in the Global BF world and has the added bonus of dealing some extra damage. Vertri (7* form of Alpha Tree Altri) is a close second for the title of best healer.

If you want to speed up your kills, take Charla. If safety is your concern and you want to turtle up and tank the shit out of content, take Aurelia.

However, there's nothing wrong with taking both if your party allows it!

[Meian]

Here's my impression, to get the juices flowing; Hushi can pistol whip me later, with corrections and more insight:

Charla is a great lead, and also a great sub, while Aurellia is just a great sub. Aurellia is a pure healer, so her role is to keep the party full on HP through her BB's heal-over-time and SBB's spike heal. Charla's job is to buff the living fsk out of our party with just her SSB, which is gives a lot of damage buffs, as well as a good BC on spark buf, and with her BB, which is is purely support, in that it heals, cleanses, and gives BC support. Since they provide fairly unique buffs, and 2x spike heals isn't a bad thing, they can work well together, especially when you need HoT and spike healing in one turn; the extra DPS and BC management are big pluses.

You won't really use them both, on a DPS race team, but when you need a team that can last a marathon, they both help to get the job done.

I wonder though since Charla's SBB can last for turns meaning she can heal whenever necessary with SB which is both a heal + HoT... the use of Aurelia sounds like for crit resist mobs? With Zeruiah available to backup heal if necessary I wonder if this also decreases Aurelia's use. I doubt I'd be using both on the same team since I have Tridon for the shield (and possibly HoT).

Was mostly looking at what specific circumstances to choose one over the other.

I beat FG on first try with 7* team, Charla helped significantly too but there was RNG luck as well compared to the typical bad RNG and I didn't get to try it with Aurelia.


Edit: lol just saw Hushi's post so disregard what I said as I read it now fully.

Edit 2: Sounds like a similar thing with when to use Tridon as lead or not. If it is a dangerous situation then I would use Aurelia with potential Tridon lead. If it is something I can survive well enough I would use Avant lead with Charla. Zeruiah, for the most part so far, has been a staple on the team (thus can cover backup emergency heal as she has already) along with Avant and Tridon (unless need specific thing like Semira's debuffs in FG or FH to put over Tridon).

[BerenTebogo]

Higher tier Challenge Arena is no joke

Stop crushing my Haile, fuck.

Edit: Is exchange hall broken for anyone else? I was planning to evolve like 5 things today need metal mimics.

[Teknique]

the mimic dungeon is still up i believe

[Hushigoshi]

It's more cost effective to make metal mimics. (Winged Mimi, Metal God, Metal King, and Metal Ghost which can be captured from dark Metal Parade)

Or to attempt to farm them from the Cave of Desires" dungeons. There's a 9% chance of capturing them from the level 1 dungeon and a 10% chance from the level 2. Farm the level 2 dungeon for them during 1/2 energy.