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  1. #7021
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    Keep wondering if all of these units will be handy in the 6* FG or arena; whatever it is that JP has.

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    Offensive stance + magnum edge + art that reduces thermal res + tp art that deals thermal damage = good lord..

    Im messing around looking for insane damage combos. Also working with bastian warrior.

  3. #7023
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    So after the latest patch im having memory issues on my brand new phone. Game is taking almost 2 gigs of data., default apps and IOS take up like 6 out of my 8
    Also this "rate up" is pure garbage 5 pulls, 6 dupes -.- including my 4th libera

  4. #7024
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    Did a bunch of YOLO pulls for Charis. Still nada

    Both bonus units were Griff. Got Eldora and my first ever Andaria.

  5. #7025
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    OMG Decided to do ONE more and it's Charis!!!!! Anima too.

    FINALLY

  6. #7026
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    Congratsos. i got jack shit, except for the units from vortex. except fire sybyl. She doesnt seem to exist
    i take that back. i got her

  7. #7027
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    I think with Eldora my dragon set is complete too.

    Does Duelmex count as the Light dragon?

  8. #7028
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    Got hosed yesterday on pulls. Have a fully decked out Reis, that's good enough for me. Going to skip today's gate and stock gems.

    Edit: Should Krantz replace my Adel? It looks like it, just sanity checking.

  9. #7029
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    I think with Eldora my dragon set is complete too.

    Does Duelmex count as the Light dragon?
    Kiravel is the new light dragon

  10. #7030
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    Oh shit, guess I'm missing one dragon for the pokedex.

  11. #7031
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    Back to back bargus pulls. FML

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    Quoting myself and also have a Challenge Arena question:

    CA Question:
    For the new FG which buff do you guys go for? Depending on composition I've gotten 1.05m with both Spark +100% and ATT/CritDMG/Elemental but I can't break that amount. Do you guys value # of hits over other things? Do all +ATK buffs stack together? I've been trying a number of compositions but still can't break it.

    Usual group:
    Reis 7* Lead for ATK+30% + Great Crit DMG+ LS - use with Buffer Gem + Underworld area gem that boosts BC droprate
    Shida 6* using 25 hit BB - Steeple sphere (+100% ATT first 2 turns) + Magical Axe for crits
    Deergirl 7* using 40 hit SBB - GGC sphere 30% ATK and 50% to spark damage + royal bud 25% spark damage
    Sargavel 7* using 28 hit SBB - Blighted Seal (+100% ATT / 50% crit) + 50% spark damage gem
    Haile 7* using 18 hit BB for ATK buff - Glacies staff + heresy orb
    Avant friend using BB for ATK/Crit buff

    Have tried rotating in Nemethgear with Blighted Seal or Obsidian Core Amplifier for Haile, have tried using more crit gems than spark gems, am considering replacing 7* Mahalu with Obsidian core in for Deergirl for ATK buff and more spark damage buff from SBB.

    Overall unsure of what stacks and what I should be prioritizing. Also does order of usage matter? I try to fire off BB/SBB in following order:

    Reis SBB (crit+) -> Avant BB -> Shida BB -> everyone else (the higher # of hits people). Is this dumb?

    Edit: Should Krantz replace my Adel? It looks like it, just sanity checking.

  13. #7033
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    Did they change up Frontier Gate points? I'm hitting 6mil all of a sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Quoting myself and also have a Challenge Arena question:

    CA Question:
    For the new FG which buff do you guys go for? Depending on composition I've gotten 1.05m with both Spark +100% and ATT/CritDMG/Elemental but I can't break that amount. Do you guys value # of hits over other things? Do all +ATK buffs stack together? I've been trying a number of compositions but still can't break it.

    Usual group:
    Reis 7* Lead for ATK+30% + Great Crit DMG+ LS - use with Buffer Gem + Underworld area gem that boosts BC droprate
    Shida 6* using 25 hit BB - Steeple sphere (+100% ATT first 2 turns) + Magical Axe for crits
    Deergirl 7* using 40 hit SBB - GGC sphere 30% ATK and 50% to spark damage + royal bud 25% spark damage
    Sargavel 7* using 28 hit SBB - Blighted Seal (+100% ATT / 50% crit) + 50% spark damage gem
    Haile 7* using 18 hit BB for ATK buff - Glacies staff + heresy orb
    Avant friend using BB for ATK/Crit buff

    Have tried rotating in Nemethgear with Blighted Seal or Obsidian Core Amplifier for Haile, have tried using more crit gems than spark gems, am considering replacing 7* Mahalu with Obsidian core in for Deergirl for ATK buff and more spark damage buff from SBB.

    Overall unsure of what stacks and what I should be prioritizing. Also does order of usage matter? I try to fire off BB/SBB in following order:

    Reis SBB (crit+) -> Avant BB -> Shida BB -> everyone else (the higher # of hits people). Is this dumb?
    So, to kind of answer your question, attack buffs both do and don't stack. Attack buffs from leader skills will stack on each other as well as stack with sphere bonus and attack buffs from BB/SBB/UBB. The only exception to this is the leader skills for Lugina and Rhein. Their LS do not stack with each other, nor stack with spheres that are similar to their LS. Their LS boosts attack (and defense) by 100% for the first two turns. This LS won't stack with spheres like Masamune and Amanoboken (boost attack by 75% for the first two turns).

    Otherwise, using your units as an example, Reis's LS (Atk+30%) will stack with spheres bonus and Haile's BB which boost attack by 120% or something

    Now, in regards to your SBB question.

    With your situation, you want to use Zeruiah's SBB first (everyone will get all six elemental buffs so everyone will deal maximum elemental damage).

    Then fire off Reis SBB so everyone gets his +60% Crit Hit Rate and +50% Crit Damage buffs.

    Then fire off Avant's SBB so everyone following him gets a +200% BB attack mod buff and his "HP -> Atk" buff.

    Then fire off Haile's BB so everyone gets the Atk buff.

    Then fire off Sargavel

    Then fire off Adel/Krantz.

    While Shida might seem like a good unit to use, his BB is actually very weak compared to everyone's SBB. Damage modifiers play a role in this. Refer to the BF wiki to see what their % modifiers are for each units's BB/SBB/UBB.

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Got hosed yesterday on pulls. Have a fully decked out Reis, that's good enough for me. Going to skip today's gate and stock gems.

    Edit: Should Krantz replace my Adel? It looks like it, just sanity checking.
    Krantz is a top tier mitigator unit. First of all, his BB and SBB both give a Light and Dark elemental buff to everyone's attack for three turns. Secondly, his BB cleanses status ailments while his SBB has a pretty potent Burst heal. He's a great support unit for that reason.

  15. #7035
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Did they change up Frontier Gate points? I'm hitting 6mil all of a sudden.
    Yes. They upped the cap of Overkill and Multikill point caps.

  16. #7036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hushigoshi View Post
    So, to kind of answer your question, attack buffs both do and don't stack. Attack buffs from leader skills will stack on each other as well as stack with sphere bonus and attack buffs from BB/SBB/UBB. The only exception to this is the leader skills for Lugina and Rhein. Their LS do not stack with each other, nor stack with spheres that are similar to their LS. Their LS boosts attack (and defense) by 100% for the first two turns. This LS won't stack with spheres like Masamune and Amanoboken (boost attack by 75% for the first two turns).

    Otherwise, using your units as an example, Reis's LS (Atk+30%) will stack with spheres bonus and Haile's BB which boost attack by 120% or something

    Now, in regards to your SBB question.

    With your situation, you want to use Zeruiah's SBB first (everyone will get all six elemental buffs so everyone will deal maximum elemental damage).

    Then fire off Reis SBB so everyone gets his +60% Crit Hit Rate and +50% Crit Damage buffs.

    Then fire off Avant's SBB so everyone following him gets a +200% BB attack mod buff and his "HP -> Atk" buff.

    Then fire off Haile's BB so everyone gets the Atk buff.

    Then fire off Sargavel

    Then fire off Adel/Krantz.

    While Shida might seem like a good unit to use, his BB is actually very weak compared to everyone's SBB. Damage modifiers play a role in this. Refer to the BF wiki to see what their % modifiers are for each units's BB/SBB/UBB.



    Krantz is a top tier mitigator unit. First of all, his BB and SBB both give a Light and Dark elemental buff to everyone's attack for three turns. Secondly, his BB cleanses status ailments while his SBB has a pretty potent Burst heal. He's a great support unit for that reason.
    Thanks! Gonna try another run in about 1.5 hours then and see how that goes.

  17. #7037
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    Can beat Lucius trial but not Melchio Grand Quest lol... this guy with the 5 npcs for the demon crown ingredient drop clear @_@

  18. #7038
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    GDI, still no UoC for me, so looks like I have to wait until Monday to see if I get it.

    On the flip side, I just got the L2 Elgif that boosts damage, to status inflicted targets, by 60%, so now Semira is doing 160% damage to whatever she attacks.

  19. #7039
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    Can beat Lucius trial but not Melchio Grand Quest lol... this guy with the 5 npcs for the demon crown ingredient drop clear @_@
    what setup did you end up doing for lucius?

  20. #7040
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    Beat the Melchio Grand Quest with Gazia whose BB gave that nice def plus the leader skill adding more def + mitigation (Phantom Gizmo and Sacred Crystal ftw). A third Demon Crown from these Grand Quests! Hooray!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitsuki View Post
    what setup did you end up doing for lucius?
    I had two squads, the first squad being decent enough normal team to survive up until he reaches form 2 (aka Galaxy team wipe).
    Cannot really recall the team but if I can guess some of the units it was... Rhoa (may have been lead), Shera, Charla, Selena, Melchio with Tridon friend. It was a nice double angel idol style for accidents or at the end to bait out his first instant kill move so I know when to start counting for guarding haha.

    Second squad was the serious squad which was if I can remember...
    Gazia (lead), Zeruiah, Hadaron, Tridon, Aurelia, Gazia (friend).

    Very defensive to survive safely. Counting was really important even though he would do a pattern at the beginning making it easy but later on it was harder. Had to bring all revives available and the odd fujin just in case. Think the reason I had Hadaron was lack of anything else for 7* since the others were in the first squad.

    You could essentially one squad it with double Gazia and revive the ones who don't survive Galaxy but there is some RNG involved if he does Void Causality etc since you want your revives for form 2.

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