Brave Frontier (iOS/Android)

[Hushigoshi]

1 chance but it's calculated for each target separately.

[Kachiko]

So, turns out that Gildorf isn't an Avant leader replacement, in FG; tried a run, for kicks, but he doesn't compare.

Also, did 8 pulls on the increased rate gate:

Balgran (L) Dupe
Farzen (B)
Lafiel (G)
Reihard (G)
Avant (L)
Klaus (A)
Iris (G) Dupe
Jona (A)

Flashing Spirit 2 & 3 Elgif (BC on crits)

So, now I have an Avant, of my own, and happy days are here. Didn't get the two best units, of the batch, but them's the breaks.

[BerenTebogo]

Yeah Avant LS isnt getting replaced for FG/FH anytime soon afaik at least before dream.

[Hushigoshi]

Yeah Avant LS isnt getting replaced for FG/FH anytime soon afaik at least before dream.

The only damage LS that comes close to Avant is Zedus. They have the same Critical damage bonus (150%) and spark bonus is close (Avant has 70%, Zedus has 80%), but Avant's 100% BB Attack seals the deal for Avant's supremacy.

[Nitsuki]

Still salty i never got Gildorf as he seems the best of the batch. I'm trying to find a way to use Malbelle in a team, i replaced Mahalu with her in my FG team and i was 1 mil under my average, so crit sparks either don't seem to work in favor of points (pretty sure that's the reason), or because Mahalu's just outright the better unit, but i'm thinking of switching Mahalu with Chrome. Also the wiki app doesn't seem to give me Malbelle's SBB modifier properly, but it seems to be 750%, and increases per more uses in that one round. So she seems to be better for trials/raids/GGCs?

Also, realized the potential of Farzen, tho i have him as a guardian, he seems like a better Griff since he has crit rate up + crit damage up + spark vulnerability, ES gives spark damage boost to BB/SBB, but the only disadvantage is he doesn't add the extra element which helps in a way for FG. I'll sub him in for griff when i get him fully imped to try him out.

[BerenTebogo]

Still salty i never got Gildorf as he seems the best of the batch. I'm trying to find a way to use Malbelle in a team, i replaced Mahalu with her in my FG team and i was 1 mil under my average, so crit sparks either don't seem to work in favor of points (pretty sure that's the reason), or because Mahalu's just outright the better unit, but i'm thinking of switching Mahalu with Chrome. Also the wiki app doesn't seem to give me Malbelle's SBB modifier properly, but it seems to be 750%, and increases per more uses in that one round. So she seems to be better for trials/raids/GGCs?

Crit spark is effectively crit damage +10% buff to every unit, that's it.

Base spark damage is a 1.5 multiplier. Crit spark is 20% chance for spark to do 50% more so it is 1.5 + (.2*.5) = 1.6.

Aka useless.

[Meian]

Malbelle

Ushi gave an example using Rowgen (1 hit SBB):
Without Spark: 43380
With Spark: 65833
Red Spark: 89830

Calculation:
Total full buffed BB damage (including atk up, boost atk based on other stats, atk on enemy that has ailment, BB dmg up, critical, elemental dmg) + (total full buffed bb damage * 50% (normal spark) + (total full buffed bb damage * 50% (red spark)) = (final damage)


Looks more suited for longer fights because of the 20% chance, the ramp up on the SBB, and the DoT at the end of the turn that lasts one turn.

[Nitsuki]

Her sbb modifier goes up 100% per use capping at 5, so during long fights her sbb modifier at max hp after 5 uses = 1350% which is nuts since she is an infinite aoe sbb unit.

[BerenTebogo]

Ushi gave an example using Rowgen (1 hit SBB):
Without Spark: 43380
With Spark: 65833
Red Spark: 89830

Calculation:
Total full buffed BB damage (including atk up, boost atk based on other stats, atk on enemy that has ailment, BB dmg up, critical, elemental dmg) + (total full buffed bb damage * 50% (normal spark) + (total full buffed bb damage * 50% (red spark)) = (final damage)


Looks more suited for longer fights because of the 20% chance, the ramp up on the SBB, and the DoT at the end of the turn that lasts one turn.

Mind you that is for the 1hit SBB. On the 80% chance it doesn't proc the damage is just the with spark number.

That's why for average damage dealt my above formula is the one you want to use. Can't plan for 100% of the damage dealt from a 20% proc activation.

Tl;dr Marbelle or Rowgen the total average damage her spark buff adds is 1.5 spark + .1 from crit spark.

Compare to other spark buffer: 1.5 + .8 = 2.3.

Calculation on whether she is useful or not is whether her SBB modifier combined with +10% global spark damage beats Elza or other 80% global spark damage to all units + their modifier.

Ignoring attack buffs because they dont matter, assuming 4k total attack no crit:
4k * (1.5+.8) * 6 people * 500% SBB * 5 turns = 1.38 mil

Marbelle after 5 turns.
4k* (1.5+.1) * 5*500% * 5 turns + 4k*1.6*1350%*5 = 800k + 432k = 1.22 mil

Loses even after letting her ramp up for 5 turns before calculating.

If you bring Marbelle and another spark buffer you're sacrificing a spot most of the time unless you are fighting 100% crit resist or ele resist enemy.

[Kachiko]

Since I don't have Zeruhia, is it better to run a spark blanket (Reud), or keep Ciara, in a double Avant/Rize + Charla FG party?

[BerenTebogo]

Since I don't have Zeruhia, is it better to run a spark blanket (Reud), or keep Ciara, in a double Avant/Rize + Charla FG party?

The elemental buffs are very important (especially if you set SBB order then auto instead of full auto like I do) and Ciara also applies an ATK buff that you are not getting with Avant or Rize.

Reud is very good, but his HP>ATK clashes with Avant even though they are the same potency. I have had good results using both him and Zeruiah in FG, but it is not ideal. I would say that instead of spark blanket just spend some time in simulator adjusting unit positions to make sure that you are maximizing the # of sparks per turn for your composition. Spark blanket makes life a lot easier if you are lazy like me.

Edit: I just got my first Charla so pretty soon I'll be experimenting with this stuff as well. I'll report back on who I drop and who I keep. My best 100% full auto is 6.45m but my average is usually around 5.6m now with Avant/Avant + Zeruiah/Elza/Reis/Vermillion. Full auto screws it since sometimes elemental buff or crit buff fire last in order but most of the time I'm doing FG while working or whatever so I don't care.

[Meian]

Since I don't have Zeruhia, is it better to run a spark blanket (Reud), or keep Ciara, in a double Avant/Rize + Charla FG party?

If I recall, before Zeruiah people had been using Shida for the elements even if he was 6* (for now in global).

[Kachiko]

Dun have a Shida yet.

From a QoL perspective, dropping one Rize, for Reud, made the run very much auto-battle, like I was used to, and gives me a perfect spot to UBB on the 3-1 mobs. I get 6 million now, where I was getting 5 million; dunno what my max will be.

[Hushigoshi]

I've done a few FG runs since getting Sacred Axe. Running double avant lead, double Rize, Zeruiah, and Charla, I'm getting around 8.5million a run (8.5k esteem).

[Kachiko]

Zeruhia + BC on spark buff lets you full SBB on just one enemy, so I don't doubt it; all elements doesn't hurt either.

[Hushigoshi]

Zeruhia + BC on spark buff lets you full SBB on just one enemy, so I don't doubt it; all elements doesn't hurt either.

I don't get full BB gauge on single target enemies if I do 6 SBB with my set up. I do SBB Charla > Zeruiah, regular attack everyone on stage 10 and 18.

Mine and the friend Avant both have Sacred Axe so they pretty much fill up on single targets but my double Rize do not even with sparking perfectly. They need a BB fill/spark Elgif for that to happen.

[Kachiko]

Ah. I only get to see it as a leader, not a sub.

[BerenTebogo]

Did 5 more pulls this morning with CA summoning tickets to try to get Lafiel and 2 more elgifs.

Klaus #2 and 3, isterio #2 and 3, Malbelle #3. Fuck offffffff.

[Nitsuki]

FH rewards out, collect your rewards!

HOLY SHIT WTF @ THE HR50 ELGIF?!!?!?

20% all parameters, boosts spark damage and BB Gauge! i'm so scared to give it to a useless unit, but then again i'm just too lazy to spend an emgif if i did so. lol

[BerenTebogo]

FH rewards out, collect your rewards!

HOLY SHIT WTF @ THE HR50 ELGIF?!!?!?

20% all parameters, boosts spark damage and BB Gauge! i'm so scared to give it to a useless unit, but then again i'm just too lazy to spend an emgif if i did so. lol

Save it til you get to current content you cant clear and then slap it on someone relevant to your party!

I'm holding some of my better ones for now since I've cleared all GQ/trial/FG so waiting to see how hard water/light/thunder FG are for me + other trials.