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  1. #1401
    Sea Torques
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    Valefor

    5* Logan can solo miracle totem, if your team is half decent and you have a premium healer you should get it done NP.

  2. #1402
    Relic Shield
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    nah my only healer is a 3 star unit ive upgraded. =/

  3. #1403
    Sea Torques
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    Ifrit

    Quote Originally Posted by Teknique View Post
    nah my only healer is a 3 star unit ive upgraded. =/
    If you have added me Themis is my leader who is a good healer.

  4. #1404
    Relic Shield
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    Mok'Nathal

    Alright thanks for the tip dizzy. Gonna attempt the level 4 miracle totem run.
    Hopefully melchio can live for a bit. he does have a decent 1600 defense
    i thought he did double damage to light units but its dark units.
    Not a horrible difficult fight, just had to baby my units. He just absolutely annihilated kikuri though.
    bastard gets 4 attacks though
    he does enjoy killing my lodin though, had to revive him twice.
    Overall wasnt a supremely difficult fight.

    Sweet. i can now take my Vargas to 6 star. Expensive as shit gold wise though =/

    Whats the best way to get more crystals/gods to level up your units, im down to 1 metal key =(
    How difficult is the first fight at the summoners research lab, trial no. 001
    nevermind just looked it up on the wiki, F that lol

  5. #1405
    RNGesus
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Waiting for SMP or the high crystal honor summon rate ups which I mentioned earlier

  6. #1406
    RNGesus
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    SMP generally comes around with new 6* releases

    Edit: woops double, thought I was editing

  7. #1407
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    Damn just realized you need a miracle totem for every 6 star you make, so i gotta get like 5 or so =/ 50 energy is so much. and god damn at the cost requirements. I definitely wont have enough to have a full 6 star team. i can barely afford my 6 star logan

  8. #1408
    Sea Torques
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    Getting those darn metal mimics is annoying. I'm not sure what unit I should take to 6 stars next. It's between Luther, Matah, Luly. Unless somebody thinks it's more beneficial to do a different unit.

  9. #1409
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    I have a few 5 stars, so what should i upgrade to 6 star? My vargas, signas, melchio, or rickel

  10. #1410
    Hydra
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    signas or melchio would be my advice

  11. #1411
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    Is there a quick list of units that are good, along with alternatives if you don't have them? Every time i think a unit is bad, i see someone recommending them.

  12. #1412
    Hydra
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    Twisting Nether

  13. #1413
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    Thanks for that listing. Funny how I only have 4 units at the great tier or higher...

  14. #1414
    Melee Summoner
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    Eh Zelnite not being at the highest Tier is a joke lol

  15. #1415
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Honestly I kind of agree with him not being at the top of the list. That top list is for game changers that people HAVE to have or have access too. While Zelnite is a fantastic unit I don't think he's required like -mitigation. Honestly I think Tlith should be in the zelnite tier and the tree should be in the top.

  16. #1416
    RNGesus
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    Why would tree be in top? Darvenshel can do his job

  17. #1417

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Fenrir

    Rarely would I want to use a leader spot just for status immunity

  18. #1418
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    Asura

    Move up a tier:
    Lilith
    Kuhla
    Sergio
    Falma

    Move down a tier:
    Lodin
    Tia
    Dean
    Behemoth

    Just as my opinion.

  19. #1419
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    So today i have gotten, 1 light totem, 3 miracle totems, and five dark totems. And dark units i have that are 4 star and needing dark totems: Alice, kikuri, lemia, Lilly matah, Erichs, and xenon. Definitely gonna upgrade Lilly and kikiru and alice. 5 stars i have that can be upgraded with miracles : Vargas, signas, rickel, Melchio, and i think lodin can be upgrade with miracle as well, not sure. hes 5 star as well

    When you upgrade a unit do they keep their class type (lord, anima, breaker) or do they get a new one randomly? My melchio is guardian and i dont want something shit like oracle.

    Looking at that list, guess i should replace my vargas with the vishra i got the other day.
    Also holy shit dragon mimics hit hard.

    Ok so. 5 star'd Kikiru and Lilly. Kikuri went guardian =(

  20. #1420
    Salvage Bans
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    So my team so far consists of this:

    Dia
    Lance
    Zelban
    Hogar
    Lunaris
    Signas
    Amy
    Random 2 star healer either Maria or May (want an upgrade here bad but no luck so far)
    and a Lodin I got recently but not sure if worth it to level up.

    Anybody worth keeping here? Anybody that I should look for an upgrade?

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