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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizil View Post
    So hey finally leveled up to my first 5* evolving Dia. I feel like I'm growing up *sniff* Now I have a new problem, not having enough cost to maintain my team (I'm only 39 now atm)
    Yeah cost can be an issue early on, best advice I have is spam the crap out of fourfold pillar in St. Lamia, especially when its half energy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy's View Post
    I did 4 pulls:

    Lava Pheonix (A)
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    Tiara (O)

    From what I see not a good pull in the bunch. Really only useful to put in mono squads, and not good ones.
    Sorry to triple post. Ramna and Rickel arent bad, actually Rickel is a really solid boss killer. Both of these got buffed recently in JP and Rickel looks pretty beast now. We will prob get the same in global soon.

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    Rickel is currently 2nd strongest boss killer. Will be 4th soon as Rowgen and Sergio get 6*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Yeah cost can be an issue early on, best advice I have is spam the crap out of fourfold pillar in St. Lamia, especially when its half energy!
    Surely it's better to put energy towards advancing the quests? Even if you get less exp early on, it'll get you more gems sooner, which are always useful, and later quests give a lot more exp per energy, plus zel, items, and units once you get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    Surely it's better to put energy towards advancing the quests? Even if you get less exp early on, it'll get you more gems sooner, which are always useful, and later quests give a lot more exp per energy, plus zel, items, and units once you get there.
    Unless you don't have the cost to field a team that can beat the "limited time" content that is being released. Quests aren't going anywhere.

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    Well depends on if you're trying to increase cost quickly or not. Fourfold is 2600 xp for 10 energy, which is the best ratio in the game afaik. Also later quests can get somewhat difficult if you dont have a couple six stars.. and if you dont have enough cost for them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Sorry to triple post. Ramna and Rickel arent bad, actually Rickel is a really solid boss killer. Both of these got buffed recently in JP and Rickel looks pretty beast now. We will prob get the same in global soon.
    I suppose, however the typing that I got is possibly the worst per unit. Rickel and Ramna are going to be glass cannons atm. I don't think I will level phoenix as I don't see a use for it. Tiara I can't seem to find a use for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzsark View Post
    Unless you don't have the cost to field a team that can beat the "limited time" content that is being released. Quests aren't going anywhere.
    True, but if you're going to spend the energy, it's obviously best to be efficient with it, and get as much exp as you can, so you can increase your cost as fast as possible, and therefore allow you to beat more of the limited content. It doesn't take long to start getting more exp than four pillars, and later on you can get evo units on the way, that would otherwise take up a bunch of energy to get (which eats into the short term exp you might gain), not to mention imps and such once you get to the end. If you need some quick exp to get a few levels fast, and don't have better quests available, then it makes sense, but overall i'm sure it's better to just continue on, even though the next few days worth of quests after it give a good bit less exp, because you'll quickly make up that lost exp.

    Fourfold is 2600 xp for 10 energy, which is the best ratio in the game afaik.
    No, it's matched starting in agni. The best is over 300 exp per energy. You can get imps in lanara too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Rickel is currently 2nd strongest boss killer. Will be 4th soon as Rowgen and Sergio get 6*.
    I would argue Faris beats out Rickel.

    When Rowgen/Sergio come out:
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    Lorand
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    Everyone else

    And I only put Faris above Rickel because she gets her boss-killing damage from her BB, rather than her SBB like Rickel does. Making it easier to maintain damage on bosses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Well depends on if you're trying to increase cost quickly or not. Fourfold is 2600 xp for 10 energy, which is the best ratio in the game afaik.
    And there are better ratios out currently. Fourfolds just happens to be the quickest way due to it's laughable difficulty, so you can spam it more. The better ones are deep in Quest mode; the best being Call of the Storm, last map, last dungeon. (313 exp/1 energy) And you have a small chance at Imps when you do Call of the Storm.

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    Dudes just evod his first 5* not sure hes rockin Agni yet nor is it worth a major discussion, was just advice on raising cost fast at low levels. Grain of salt and all that.

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    I forgot about Faris. She's new

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Dudes just evod his first 5* not sure hes rockin Agni yet.
    Right, but i'm saying it would be wise to start working towards it, rather than spending energy only for exp. He's stuck on cost now, true, but he's still going to be for a long time, well past agni, so long term efficiency is good.

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    Haha wow what did I just start. Yea I'm having some cost problems but it's not too bad, only real problem I have is my arena team. Normal grinding or vortex stuff I can work around with a little ingenuity.

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    I spammed fourfold when I was leveling and never once had a cost issue. Different strokes I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I spammed fourfold when I was leveling and never once had a cost issue. Different strokes I guess.
    Never? You don't get enough cost for 5 6*s until around level 117. I think i was like 60 or 70 by the time i could have evolved everything to 6*, if not for cost limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizil View Post
    Haha wow what did I just start. Yea I'm having some cost problems but it's not too bad, only real problem I have is my arena team. Normal grinding or vortex stuff I can work around with a little ingenuity.
    There are two strategies to Arena.

    Have incredibly hard hitting units like Sefia, Lunaris, Elulu, ect and kill 1-3 units in the first turn
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    Have low cost AoE spamming units like Zelnite, Farlon, Ophelia, ect and kill 2nd turn

    Regardless, RNG is RNG. I've gotten a win with my Metal Parade team of SGX, Deemo, Serin, Serin, Douglas

    But to your original question, Day is correct. Fourfolds pillar is the way to go since I didn't notice how low level you were

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    I have mostly hard hitters like Lunaris, Signas, Hogar, Dia, and Lucca who just came out seems like a pretty hard hitter as well. However I'm 3 points short of having all these out for arena, so I have to sub one for Amy, which puts me at just the right cost.

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    Unit costs have also gone up with batches. I beat Grah around lvl 95 or so with Serin, Aisha, Twins, Kikuri and Rashil. Anyways, its whatever lol. Energy was also 10 min refill back then so questing wouldnt push you over the level and you'd have to wait what felt like forever for energy.

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    Cost is what is killing me right now, I have 5 *6 units, I however do not have the cost to use them on the same team. In other news I upgraded my Hogar to 6*. Now if only a dark totem would drop so that I can upgrade Matah.

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