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  1. #1701
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    580% damage on mariudeth SBB. Good crit rate bonus, high damage, and crit damage leader skill. Very good unit, especially as breaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziero View Post
    Why get rid of them? They're both good units and have different uses compared to Lily and Mari. If you're running low on Unit space, just drop a gem on adding more storage, early on in the game Gems are pretty easy to come by and investing a few on storage space (both unit and items) isn't a terrible idea.
    I dunno thinking about keeping them anyway just because I'm a pack rat. Plus I like Signas' BB having Injury proc. Guess I'm just too hung up on keeping Dia's Five Lights leader ability, but maybe I might look into having a new leader and just not run a rainbow squad.

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    Lunaris is very good if you need someone for status annulment.

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    My 5 star signas level 70 has 2200 attack

  5. #1705
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    did 3 pulls got ciara, breaker ardin and breaker ulkina, im happy with those especially ulkina since i needed a fire healer

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    Ok so I gave Mari a whirl after leveling him to 44. So far his regular attack is ok, but his BB...mother of god...first time I've seen any of my units pop off 5 digit damage (granted it was against a fire mob) but still, craziness. Decided to rework my team a bit and put Lucca as leader for the BB reduction cost so I can just spam BBs, but think I might replace him with Lilly since I think she's better suited for the role.

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    Been playing for 236 days and I barely found out you can swap squad positions mid-battle. Anyone know of any other tricks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizil View Post
    Ok so I gave Mari a whirl after leveling him to 44. So far his regular attack is ok, but his BB...mother of god...first time I've seen any of my units pop off 5 digit damage (granted it was against a fire mob) but still, craziness. Decided to rework my team a bit and put Lucca as leader for the BB reduction cost so I can just spam BBs, but think I might replace him with Lilly since I think she's better suited for the role.
    Yeah, mariudeth was the first unit i ever saw 6 digit damage on too. His sbb hits 20-30k+ even without buffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristio View Post
    Been playing for 236 days and I barely found out you can swap squad positions mid-battle. Anyone know of any other tricks?
    Mid battle? What is this sorcery?

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    Click menu. Can also adjust auto behavior, so healers won't heal if you're already at full hp.

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    Menu>Unit info>Change Formation

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    Mariudeth is a great unit in raid battles. You'll use him in RC3Q10,11,12 in place of DGX. Everything dies fast with double Maxwell raid groups, the best people group with heavy damage dealers/buffers, one status remover (often optional if your group is good, despite what others may tell you), and one mitigation unit so you don't wipe after one attack. No healers, no heart crystal droppers - just high hit count AoE with one or two Omni Gizmos equipped (assuming double sphered).

    Crit Buffers (when to use)
    Duel-GX : If you need to have everyone crit to kill on the first turn.
    Mariudeth : Doing as much damage over time as possible.
    Others : varies

    Ushi posted a video a few months ago showing the difference in SBB damage between a Breaker and Guardian Mariudeth. It was around 17-18% iirc, which is pretty significant to me. This also implies there is a fairly significant damage difference for other non-breaker units.

    Also of note, he showed in the same video that attack spheres are not considered as base damage when the BB/SBB damage modifier is applied, so a wicked blade only ends up boosting damage by around 11~12%, and much less for weaker spheres. Spark Damage spheres end up applying to your damage after everything is considered - so they can end up doubling it - they are best for doing high BB damage. Keep your steeple roses/heavenly buds.

    For those interested in optimizing their damage:

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    Hey guys, so I stopped playing right around when the 6* evos came out (only the starters had been out I think) and the strongest arena teams were Kikuris and Sefias. Around that time, Frontier Hunter was the "endgame" and it was pretty damn boring farming for points with little cheese tactics (pinging stuff down and wiping, or defending while BB charged up).

    Thinking of jumping back in, and have some questions:

    1. Anything significant changed since then? I know there have been a ton of new units, but has the game really evolved much?
    2. How's the power creep? Are my Sefia, Kikuri, and Aisha useless now?
    3. What are some of the top units now? Any new must-have leads and setups?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakron View Post
    Hey guys, so I stopped playing right around when the 6* evos came out (only the starters had been out I think) and the strongest arena teams were Kikuris and Sefias. Around that time, Frontier Hunter was the "endgame" and it was pretty damn boring farming for points with little cheese tactics (pinging stuff down and wiping, or defending while BB charged up).

    Thinking of jumping back in, and have some questions:

    1. Anything significant changed since then? I know there have been a ton of new units, but has the game really evolved much?
    2. How's the power creep? Are my Sefia, Kikuri, and Aisha useless now?
    3. What are some of the top units now? Any new must-have leads and setups?

    Thanks.
    1. More endgame content such as Grand Gia Chronicles in the vortex. More quest maps and raid coming this month hopefully. Grand Quest got released in JP, so we should see that too soonish.
    2. For the most part, New Units > Old Units. Your Sefia, Kikuri, and Aisha are okay, but not the best. However, with the JP update to balance released on Wednesday, they have become much more viable to use. I don't know when we'll be seeing that patch. It should be noted that except for Shida's 6* and a few new 6* we are completely caught up to JP in terms of units.
    3. Lilly Matah, Darvenshel, Zelnite are all the top leaders/units now. There is a lot of viability with a lot of different unit strategies, and the variety to choose from is a bit overwhelming. What the new trend is now is have units that: Mitigate damage (Darvenshel, Oulu, Narza), Spark + Damage, Crit+ chance, and two damage dealers.

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    Thanks guys. Never thought I'd see the day where Ziz was rated higher than Kikuri and Sefia.

    Had some left over gems and pulled a Lily Matah and two Zelnites, so not too bad I guess.

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    lol 23.5k honor points and 12.2k in my gift box and rising. Come on friday! I'm going to need to really make sure I keep burning energy on the zel weekend...

  18. #1718
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    Okay, what is a better place to farm light idols than the evo vortex? Haven't gotten a single one in the last 15ish tries, and i need like 10 of them.

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    I think you can probably find some in the shrine of lystia in morgan. But it will be random on the appearance.

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    Too rare and not worth the energy for morgan :/

    Anyone ever try in mirvana? Light idols+totems+good exp there, but not sure how rare they are...

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