DISCUSSION: 1/20/14 Version Update

[NynJa]

We did a SKC20 (VD) nothing of interrest droped lol what a worthless update. 20SKC is 10x harder to farm than 20 merits, I dont see congestion decreasing any time soon in AAfights.

Char     BSeal    KSeal    KCrest      HKCst       SKCst    SKC20
Nynja    124-41  1107-369   2371-790    314-104  500-1804    90
Kehhiko  336-112  583-194   2339-779    386-128  435-1648    82
Vermy    188-62   863-287   2114-704    325-108  407-1568    78

Number after every non-SKC is conversion amount, number after SKC is converted tally.
SKC20 = amount of orbs that can be purchased


Seals so hard to come by or do you need a video proving this?

[Animetwins]

Char     BSeal    KSeal    KCrest      HKCst       SKCst    SKC20
Nynja    124-41  1107-369   2371-790    314-104  500-1804    90
Kehhiko  336-112  583-194   2339-779    386-128  435-1648    82
Vermy    188-62   863-287   2114-704    325-108  407-1568    78

Number after every non-SKC is conversion amount, number after SKC is converted tally.
SKC20 = amount of orbs that can be purchased


Seals so hard to come by or do you need a video proving this?

Ah looks like you missed the conversion when it was at 2:1 instead of 3:1 seals

[NynJa]

There will be more most likely. Bear in mind at that time, SKC's were kinda meh, rem's were very available via sparks, and the weapons were losing their monetary luster. In fact, it stands to reason there was more gil to be made spamming bia orb fights for -1 hexed from ele/greater bird or arise/meteor/HMP/alex from moblins.

[Trumpy]

The devs said the RoE quests where you kill NMs are more meant to be like achievments or for when you happened across the NMs randomly. So they obviously wouldn't add good items for rewards for these or people would go on purpose to camp them. i guess just make sure you think to start the quest whenever you might see one.

[haruhigumi]

Ah looks like you missed the conversion when it was at 2:1 instead of 3:1 seals

why in the hell did they change it back?

[JSHidaka]

why in the hell did they change it back?

'coz it was part of the campaign -_- ... and its over...

[dasva]

The ciphers are a cheap way for them to have items that people find desirable in each login campaign, so it's sort of understandable why they put them in there. At the same time, I hope they add ways to get them later on, because I totally missed Zeid.

Yeah on the other hand it's an easy way to miss them. Somehow I totally missed Zeid too on my main but all my mules got it lol

[Streak]

Any information on where the new puppetmaster attachments may be found?

[Byrthnoth]

Alchemy synthesis using items that probably drop from the new fights.

[SnickySnacks]

I'm really wondering if Turbo Charger II is going to break the pet haste cap. If not, what's the point. It's already trivially easy to get 25% haste on a puppet.

So, here's hoping...

[JSHidaka]

I'm really wondering if Turbo Charger II is going to break the pet haste cap. If not, what's the point. It's already trivially easy to get 25% haste on a puppet.

So, here's hoping...

dont think so it will break the cap... just giving you easy way to cap it w/o using maneuvers.. or gear..

[SnickySnacks]

It's already possible to hit 24-25% with 1 wind and 2 minor pieces of gear or 23% with 0 wind and 4 pieces of gear. Given that you can't haste pets it wouldn't be outrageous to allow it to break the equipment cap (function as JA haste or magic haste instead). If it doesn't, 1 wind maneuver with both turbo chargers will likely easily cap haste out, since I can't imagine TC2 will come in under 10% with 1 wind.

[shepardG]

I was under the impression that gear haste and attachment/maneuver haste were two different things? Is that wrong?

[Psion]

I'm pretty certain that overdrive haste and turbo charger haste are two separate things, as I've noticed oniwaka hits far faster with 3 wind under overdrive than without. I've not tested to see if gear haste and turbo charger haste are two separate categories though. If so, i guess that means you could get up to 75% haste for automatons during 2 hour? :D

[dasva]

Turbo charger counts as gear. Overdrive doesn't. Not sure if magic or ja but doesn't really matter I think

[SnickySnacks]

What Dasva said, and that's the problem. You're essentially stuck at 25% max for the puppet outside of overdrive. If turbo charger 1 or 2 were counted as JA haste (or JA + magic) it'd open up a few options for greatly increasing the speed the puppet could attack if you were willing to spend the attachment slots on one, or both, of them.

[dasva]

Not sure if it was mentioned or already known but just got beetle blood from normal amphibian assualt

[Spira]

Guess they're working their way up to level 99 gear. They started with iron scale and chainmail now they're on beak jerkin and justacorps. Maybe next patch they'll Darksteel harness set, scoprion harness set, carapace set. Then they'll do lvl 70 sets, so errant, coral harness, gavial. Then the patch after maybe ilvl sky god gear and ilvl abjuration sets and expansion sets like Barone and Sha'ir.

i actually like how they're bringing some of the old sets back. its funny tho. in the vanilla days they were pretty blatant about reusing armor sets, to the point that it was really obvious but its not been done quite as much for newer / higher level sets. in any case, i don't mind them bringing the old sets back..

i did this up like yesterday.. its a nice overview of what vanilla fashion was like.

[Rehn]

Has anyone tried those BCs they mentioned for AF119 mats? Did 6 dismemberment brigade and got nada (5 difficult, 1 normal).

[dasva]

I'd guess bad rate or they meant 109 lol. I've 0/5 on amphibian