Microcosmic orb

[ikariiiii]

I get that you're asking Rehn, but I'll lay it out for you a little more.

Factory Rejects has 1 detector and 5 dolls, but the detector only spawns 1 at a time. They get bigger each one you kill. Their enmity is rather volatile, meaning that whoever last performed an action will end up with hate. Ideally you want some fast attacking DDs to keep the mob's attention after it hits your group with ga spells and mages respond with paralyna/cures. PLD won't save you here either. MNKs are ideal since high hp can eat the ga spells, fast attack rounds, and dolls are weak to blunt. So something like MNK MNK MNK COR BRD WHM will get you through D no problem, though you could do it with less, gear depending.

[silentsteel]

Good thing I've got my mnk up doing rather well then, lol. I'll have to get a few of my friends to try it out with me.

[NynJa]

and dolls are weak to blunt.

wut? In 10 yrs I've never heard of this, and neither has
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Doll
or
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Dolls

[Fwahm]

He was probably mixing them up with Pots.

[silentsteel]

I've actually heard the weakness before too, but yeah it's probably the pot confusion which contributes to that.

[Rehn]

Just to expand on ikari's post.

There is an internal timer from the moment you aggro the factory. The dolls initially start out small in size, and as time passes the factory will spawn medium, and eventually large. Small/medium dolls don't have any evasion to note, but the large dolls do. On difficult, you'll have some accuracy issues unless you pop focus/aggressor on large dolls (or use mad/hunter I guess). I believe every 2min will cause the factory to increase the next doll's size, since I've mostly experienced small > small > medium > medium(rarely large) > large with my clears being around 5-6 min long.

The dolls have additional effect of bind (about 25-33% activation rate) which resets enmty, so 2x melee at the minimum would be your best bet. MNK MNK WHM BRD COR was my setup every time, but there shouldn't be a reason other melees can't do as well. I've only had slight problems with melees droppin rapidly in HP on large dolls (triple attack + panzerfaust is bad).

For being SKC10, I'm sure the increase from D > VD wouldn't be that bad that a single madrigal or hunter can cover it, but I haven't tried yet.

[Animetwins]

Do the SKC10s also drop the papers for reforging artifact armor? I haven't done one of them yet so I'm not sure (and really wouldn't want to do the fights until I finished reforging all my artifact if they don't)

If they do is it in roughly the same amounts as the SKC20s (as well as the question about the 109/119 synth materials as well since I can't recall seeing if that was answered)?

If the D > VD evasion increase is similar to the SKC20 fights I would qualify the increase as "annoying"

[Rehn]

They don't drop papers ;(

[NynJa]

They dont drop papers, and difficult isnt a guaranteed RME 119 item to personal pool, nor do they drop 119 AF upgrades (I think?), theres very little demand for them other than chasing the armor

[Animetwins]

Bleh so waste of time until all reforging is done really except if you only want to do them to make money (or save money if doing the fights instead of purchasing on the sellable stuff)

Ah well; one less thing to try to squeeze into limitted free time.

[silentsteel]

D and VD for some of the 20 fights drop 119 mats now, it was updated last week with that patch

[NynJa]

D and VD for some of the 20 fights drop 119 mats now, it was updated last week with that patch

Yeah, but this is about SKC10...

(or save money if doing the fights instead of purchasing on the sellable stuff)

Gil is useless if the shit you want to buy isnt available.

[silentsteel]

Gil is useless if the shit you want to buy isn't available.

And that's exactly why I want to do some of the fights, lol.

[dasva]

Yeah plus these fights aren't that hard. You don't stay rich by spending 4 mil instead of doing an easy fight lol. And now with exchange and the personal as well as pt pool for papers people should be rolling in SKC.

Speaking of easy... do the dolls keep spawning on the timer or does it wait till ones dead? And the hate reset is only on the bind proc right?

[Rehn]

A doll pops after you kill current one, so you'll never have to deal with more than 1. And yes, hate reset occurs if bind procs, so I suppose you can avoid the nonsense if you /nin or nin main.

[dasva]

I was thinking more along the lines of ochain... though it has that stun move which might screw over that idea