Does "vertical progression" means that all my gear will soon become obsolete?

[Ksandra]

Hell my melded gear is more of an accomplishment then anything else.

lol ya I think the saddest thing to go for me will be once the current crafting AF gets outdated just because of the slow process it was for me to meld mine with the stupid price hike on them before.

Even then, though, shit's not that serious to me.

I think they said something about personal housing having displays with gear? (I could be mixing this up since like ten million mmos are doing housing talk lately) That's good enough for me.

[Jaybar]

That's just it. We have really not worked all that hard for anything.

All our gear myth, relics even ex weps take a few hours tops to get(excluding lock out) nothing in this game feels like I'd have been cheated out of work.

Hell my melded gear is more of an accomplishment then anything else.

Idk man when you finally find that Titan group the surge of joy is ecstatic. Unfortunately not all of us are in the 1% that can farm a week's worth of lockouts in 4hrs.

[Katlan]

iirc, Mytho wasn't actually labeled as the artifact as there were a couple models floating around. As far as upgrading relics and the armor, it could be possible they implement some new quest. For weapon it may be somethin like the quest is now where we needed to find a suitable host, only our current weapon is the new host. Idk how they would spin Zenith'd ones into it, perhaps they HAVE to be Zenith? Armor may be the same thing, you need the myth piece for them to sort of add onto to make it a new artifact. I'm curious how that would play out.

I wouldn't mind this system at all and actually like it. Especially since mitho will be uncapped each week (assumption) it still creates a sense if progression instead of like WoW where you can jump into current tier.

I have little hope it will be done this way though

[Ksandra]

Idk man when you finally find that Titan group the surge of joy is ecstatic. Unfortunately not all of us are in the 1% that can farm a week's worth of lockouts in 4hrs.

While true, even having the shittiest luck is still no comparison to say a relic back in ye old ffxi days.

Even for WoW it took me longer to get some shit in there than my elfin bow. And I am super casual in both games.

idk I guess I am not a hoarder like some people.

[Rocl]

Unfortunately not all of us are in the 1% that can farm a week's worth of lockouts in 4hrs.

hashtag third world problems

I was actually hanging on to all my Stone Vigil weapons because they looked rad... and finally made the decision, last night, to offload any and all items lower than i60 unless they were unique gear sets (foestriker's/battlemage/cavalry/infantry/acolyte's) and got rid of cool shit like the beetle staff, dragon spear, etc.

I kinda' assumed these models would ultimately get recycled because they looked neat and had some animation to them, currently completely wasted on a couple levels of FATE-grinding.

Isn't Foestriker/Battlemage/Vigil weapons etc all reused for the PVP sets?

[Jaybar]

While true, even having the shittiest luck is still no comparison to say a relic back in ye old ffxi days.

Even for WoW it took me longer to get some shit in there than my elfin bow. And I am super casual in both games.

idk I guess I am not a hoarder like some people.

I was comparing FFXIV to FFXIV. Obviously nothing comes close to getting certain pieces of gear in XI (Dring, Ridill, Relics, AF2+1 lol, Nyzul sets, sea access for the lulz)

hashtag third world problems

P.much

[Kaslo]

My major fear: Higher Level crafting gear making all my melding worthless!

[Scythiroth]

My major fear: Higher Level crafting gear making all my melding worthless!

I am really curious what is going to happen with this. Unless they make a higher tier of crafting AF or something, I really have no idea how it is going to be handled lol.

edit: Unless you just mean for battle classes' gear melds. >.>

[Rocl]

My major fear: Higher Level crafting gear making all my melding worthless!

I was super curious about DoL/DoH ilvls raising but I'm worried it won't in forever

[Stumps]

Something bigger will have to be coming down the pipeline before too long for DoH purposes, we do have the Grade V Carbonized Matter hanging around there with nothing to do. Maybe the ilvl 90 craftables will require a higher ilvl of crafting gear, maybe we'll get some non-meldable legendary crafting gear. Depending on what they do for 2.2 we might even see Tier V materia and the ilvl 90 meldable gear, would only be logical if they are bumping up the highest obtainable ilvl that we could see it anytime starting from that point.

[miokomioko]

hashtag third world problems



Isn't Foestriker/Battlemage/Vigil weapons etc all reused for the PVP sets?

Fug, thanks for reminding me... wait the weapons are?

edit: Yup, all the Warwolf weapons are more or less reskinned Stone Vigil models and the Direwolf armor models are pulled from Foestriker's/Battlemage/Acolyte's/Cavalry/Infantry. How about them apples...

STILL. The original Stone Vigil Jamadhars look like they are made out of XI crab.

[Taint]

I could see Relics getting upgraded 1-2 more times, atleast to carry them over until the expansion. We are setup for 4 types of Tomes so maybe 4 total upgrades with an allagan equivalent that is better.

[Icarian]

What I'm more concerned about is, how are we going to spiritbond higher ilvl gear (I'm guessing that where level 5 materia will come from) if they don't raise the level on overworld mobs? Right now you can only spiritbond ilvl70+ stuff in CT and Coil if I'm not wrong.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Well Turn 3 will be repeatable, so that's likely to become a "thing" that people do.

[Ksandra]

I was comparing FFXIV to FFXIV. Obviously nothing comes close to getting certain pieces of gear in XI (Dring, Ridill, Relics, AF2+1 lol, Nyzul sets, sea access for the lulz)

Ya I know, I was just pointing out that it's still faster than other games with vertical progression.

Coild drops are probably a better comparison because of the forced lock out and terrible rng.

[dejet]

Idk man when you finally find that Titan group the surge of joy is ecstatic. Unfortunately not all of us are in the 1% that can farm a week's worth of lockouts in 4hrs.

I will give you this, for people not blessed with great FC's it may suck. Still you can not tell me that anything in this game warrants being upgraded outside to keep the look of it. EX weps if you have a great group can be done even faster than a god damn relic.

[lilbubbles]

Salvage was the hardest thing for me in 11.

Imagine running coil every single day, for over a year, duping the drops you do manage to get, and not having a full set to show for it.

I was kind of happy to get banned, I couldn't live one more day doing salvage.

[TheDirtyHobo]

While I don't necessarily agree with the speed that they're phasing out old gear, I definitely prefer the vertical ladder with a somewhat steady rate of item aquisition to 11's "Do the same thing as much as possible for years with godawful drop rates." hi2u Dring. I think the Abyssea age was a pretty good medium of constant gear progression but not feeling TOO instant. Once you climbed the ladder once it was very easy to go back and farm everything, but the first time could be a decent challenge depending on your group size/skill level.

[Tyrath]

What I'm more concerned about is, how are we going to spiritbond higher ilvl gear (I'm guessing that where level 5 materia will come from) if they don't raise the level on overworld mobs? Right now you can only spiritbond ilvl70+ stuff in CT and Coil if I'm not wrong.

You can spiritbond lvl 80 stuff.

[TheDirtyHobo]

Read it again, but a little bit more closely.