DISCUSSION: 2/17/2014 Version Update

[Draylo]

An additional -2 it seems for BP delay II. MNK gear lost all its HP+%?

[Toth]

Amour is largely terrible. They've followed the pure stat vomit formula again. Disappointing but expected.

Skirmish gear looks exactly the same with slightly higher stats, only hope is the augment range is bigger

Well, I think they want all gear to be able to be upgraded to the same level so even reforged relic+1 shouldn't be largely better than reforged af+1. The new jobs got some great pieces. That GEO body...yummy.

[Prothescar]

the fuck is critical parry

[Treize Kordero]

Skirmish Weapons +2 look great!!! Might have to go back to older skirmishes and pick up a few more. Ninjas +2 and Crobaci +2 have nice stats.

[dannyl]

Fishing adjustments and such next update?
Didn't see anything, was half expecting it

[Alistrianna]

Yeah, seems they stripped the HP% and made it grant large chunks of HP instead.

[Casey_]

Wyvern HP+% was changed to a static number, too.

[Kincard]

the fuck is critical parry

My guess is just a counter.

Fishing adjustments and such next update?

They directly said fishing adjustments are in March.

Augments are currently stored in extdata, so they don't show up in the .dats as being associated with a given item. The augments will almost certainly remain.

Hm, is there any new data for RUN-related augments?

[Sechs]

the fuck is critical parry

My thoughts when I saw that piece for RUN...

Some AF2 are interesting, other are confusing. Many have lower statvomit with the addition of other cool stuff, compared to 119 reforged AFs.
I saw a lot of unique stuff gone though, in favour of statvomit.

Also, am I wrong in saying that at first sight Skirmish gear is disappointing with the basic stats? Some pieces received a +1 in stats... for being a 113>119 jump it seems a tad disappointing.

[Prothescar]

all they did was make the base stats higher it seems. if there's any major boosts it'll be from augments. makes them the unrivaled kings of defense again, though.

[Ansel]

the fuck is critical parry

Wasn't there some RUN thing about reflecting damage on parries? I guess a critical parry would reflect more damage?

[jimbobsonofgod]

up 9 minutes early ?

[Kincard]

Relic uses the existing chapters.

Relic -> Reforged needs 2 hundred dynamis currencies
Relic +1 -> Reforged needs 1 hundred dynamis currency
Relic +2 -> Reforged needs no currency

Reforged +1 uses Voidwatch shit and Delve boss crafting mats.

[Sechs]

What an unexpected turn of events o.O
What's the difference between unagumented Relic+2 and augmented relic+2?
So basically if you have augmented relic+2 you get a free 109?

[Zalrik21]

Also seems that we need delve craft items to make the reforged relics +1

[Ansel]

10 chapters for unaugmented armor. 5 for augmented.

Edit: There are also job specific mats and the same slot specific mats that you need to upgrade. For example. MNK Head requires Giffon Hides + Phoenix Feather + chapters.

[Tarage]

Quick glancing over of SMN AF:
Head: Looks to be the new MAB BP head. Surprising.
Body: Might flat out replace Caller's. Might have to retire the entire set now...
Hands: Good for skill, not much else. Practically drowning in -BPDelay I.
Legs: Worthless. FFS SE, can you fucking make a pair of pants SMN want to wear?
Feet: Only -1 BPDelay II on them is a bit disappointing. I'm no mathologist but they might be the best physical BP feet around.

So... 4/5. I wish SE would make us some new pants...

[Kincard]

So basically if you have augmented relic+2 you get a free 109?

You still need to turn in chapters (5, 10, or 10 depending on what stage your relic armor is at), the same crafting mat as for NQ reforged AF, and a crafting mat that's from Dynamis (The ones used for Relic quests, NIN uses Relic iron for instance).

BTW they all keep augments so don't worry about needing to upgrade another one from the ground up.

[Prothescar]

Enjoy the new VW grind gentlemen

[CubsWoo]

Boss materials are 300,000 plasm from the Inventor's Guild.