Neo Delve Lowman setups

[Fake]

Evidently your reading comprehension fails more. There is 0 reason to use rngs when you aren't planning on beading 3 NMs.

Ceizak is the easiest zone to do without stuns, and if you bring 1 blu to terror scorp at 50% then you're extremely safe. The only reason to bring rng would be if you mages and DD are incapable of staying alive, if thats the case then you suck bad enough to bead multiple NMs.

Also, with a non retarded PLD RNG setup, you don't need to bead even 1 NM and win with 5-10mins remaining.

[ccl]

Outside of maybe mastop ? rng rng rng brd whm pld should be able to 6 man that zone.

[ikariiiii]

The only reason to bring rng would be if you mages and DD are incapable of staying alive,

Did you come up with that idea all by yourself now?

[Fake]

Mastop probably dies 2nd fastest after twitherym with that setup assuming your brd and whm are capable of spamming DOTs (but since this setup is resorting to rng and pd to win, thats not a safe assumption).

Scorp is likely to be to sticking point, if there is one.

[Fake]

Did you come up with that idea all by yourself now?

Provide some useful information please. Telling people about your whm sch pld strat is good for a laugh, but its not especially relevant.

[ikariiiii]

Apparently you missed this post then:

Just out of curiosity what are the full job lists for 6 man delve with pld and rngs?

And in regards to useful information, I'm not the one parroting posts and trying to act condescending and original. My attempt with RNG PLD set up was a one time deal. As I said already, BLUs and SAMs are your best bet. You can drop your attempts to pick a fight now, because the question has been answered and settled.

[Fake]

Except you provided a setup that made no sense and completely wasted a slot in 6 man content, then proceeded to advise on beading an NM to make your setup "guarantee the win".

I'm all for people providing information, if its useful. As for being condescending, you seem to be holding up your end pretty well there, if nowhere else.

On point: PLD RNG RNG RNG BRD WHM can easily win ceizak in 35mins with eminent bows, whm subs /blm and stuns hell scissors on scorp, brd spams dia on scorp below 50%.

[ikariiiii]

PLD RNG RNG RNG BRD WHM can easily win ceizak in 35mins with eminent bows, whm subs /blm and stuns hell scissors on scorp, brd spams dia on scorp below 50%.

This is pretty much all you had to say if you wanted to correct something. Saying things like "I don't know why you would bring WHM and SCH blah blah you must suck" helps nobody either.

[Fake]

This is pretty much all you had to say if you wanted to correct something. Saying things like "I don't know why you would bring WHM and SCH blah blah you must suck" helps nobody either.

Welcome to the internet?

[ccl]

How do you mastop now ? Do you just spam enf and murder it since hp is low enough ? Or still need different dmg source ? I admit I didn't fight mastop since like may or june.

[Fake]

I have done it with 3 namas sam (no gkt WS used) and it died in less than 2mins

[Hitou]

Er yeah sorry for starting a debate. I was implying with a "you suck at life" beading NMs strategy. Mostly wanted to know what job to drop out of the normal whm brd sch support and looks like the answer is sch. I should have been more clear in my first post. Since I'm already asking dumb questions I'll ask some more. Does the PLD require ochain or will eminent shield work? The bee doesn't seem that dangerous outside of getting slapped with weakness and aeroja or something going off. And can cor fit in that set up at all, replace brd or maybe a rng? Thanks for humoring me.

[Fake]

Pld doesn't need aegis or ochain for delve, ochain would obviously make a big difference but its by no means required.

Cor can replace a rng.

If you are beading NMs then scorp, tax'et and mastop.

Cor can random deal > wild card > random deal on bee to ensure decoy is never down since bee can hate reset and you want to minimize the time it takes for pld to get it back.

[Darkmagi]

Melee RNG is perfectly acceptable for ceizak and the only DD I'd take over it would be a bow sam. It's much easier for me and my group to just melee rng, as we can't be assed to make yoichi or merit apex arrow.

[Fake]

Except in this case we're specifically catering to groups that need to use conventional pld rng strats because they are unable to win with multiple people in range.

[Darkmagi]

Fair enough, only skimmed and didn't see the entire scope of the conversation.

[Hitou]

I think the biggest issue with groups I've gone with or made myself was not being able to get past the 25% HP point due to lack of damage. That and taking too long on NMs like Tax'et or for some reason the twitherym. Only had at most 1 rng in the pt and that wasn't enough to take the bee down, so I guess I'll try with blu's, bow sam (if I can find any) and or rng before resorting to beads. I mistakenly thought formless strikes would bypass the -DT at 25% and that was another issue.

[Syntex]

Did the Unfettered Twitherym with a DNC SAM THF WHM. Was able to stun most of the TP moves with AF as /dnc no problem. Killed it and got nothing but elixirs. Took about 20 minutes.

[Darkmagi]

Ok? I'm really not understanding the point of your post. I was dualboxing twitherym in like 5minutes before update. They all had HP reduced, so I'm not even seeing how you took that long unless you all have no adoulin gear.

[psykopat]

Sorry for the noob question on this topic but how do you handle the hate reset with this setup (PLD RNGx3 BRD WHM)? I'm a bit worried about not bringing SCH and everybody getting raped when hate is reset on PLD. I have very little experience with the bee, cleared it like 2 times with PUG in the past when it was 18 man content.