Paladin VS Warrior : Battle of the Off Tank DPS

[Niiro]

idk abt you but i have a shit tonne of things to do before 2.38.....

just finished my wife's animus and my 4th novus

need to save up enough alex for ninja before 2.4

@taint damn bro i want your parry set +_+

I may put up with a lot of SE's crap, but I'm not a full blown masochist.

[Kirbyprime]

my 4th novus

I salute your dedication... I think....

[Ramset]

I saw the low PLD DPS and the very high WAR DPS and asked if it was a solo strat. PLD tanking the entire encounter would lower his DPS while WAR DPSing the entire encounter would raise his.

It was later explained that you guys run a completely opposite rotation as my group which caused the difference in DPS.

We have WAR open, I take at Spit, then next spit WAR takes Raff back for the rest of the fight. Which explains our difference in DPS.

I'll save our parse next Tuesday and we can compare total combined DPS.

Okay cool.. I see that now. My brain.. was just not.. processing properly at the time.

Definitely interested to see how you both parse though.

[Black]

not as good as Cage rancor numbers but T o T

http://i58.tinypic.com/8x333t.jpg


want mah axe so bad T o T

[Ramset]

not as good as Cage rancor numbers but T o T

*snip*


want mah axe so bad T o T

That's pretty damn good for no HA axe. I died this week in T6 so my parse was shitty. Anyone know good numbers for Turn 9 warrior continuous parse? I think this is the highest I've done:

[Black]

That's pretty damn good for no HA axe. I died this week in T6 so my parse was shitty. Anyone know good numbers for Turn 9 warrior continuous parse? I think this is the highest I've done:

thats nice. i think you will be able to reach 270DPS maybe more with better or perfect fight

meh wish i can go with my war i t9, but my group DPS is terribad i have to blm there

[Kirbyprime]

Tried to do full on DPS on T8 as PLD and pulled hate near first dread and promptly died ( sure I could have stopped DPS but I shouldn't have to ;___; ), won, but I'm officially not letting co-tank MT T9 now.

[Taint]

Our Turn6 Parse from last night:

We do not kill the slugs so I'm stuck flashing a few times.

http://beast40.com/FFXIV/Parses/turn6.png

[Ramset]

thats nice. i think you will be able to reach 270DPS maybe more with better or perfect fight

meh wish i can go with my war i t9, but my group DPS is terribad i have to blm there

I dunno. 270 unmerged would be pretty ridiculous. It'd have to be a close to perfect fight as you mentioned lol

Our Turn6 Parse from last night:

We do not kill the slugs so I'm stuck flashing a few times.

*snipped parse*

Nice. Compared to my parse from last week, you netted 1.90 more dps between your tanks vs us. 528.39 vs 526.49. [According to my math, you can double check.] We'd have to do a few dozen trials to get some sort of reasonable sample size which might indicate a trend line, but more than likely it'll always end up pretty damn close.

Side Note:

I almost completed Turn 8 with over 350 dps last night. We wiped with some ridiculously low HP% left and I was about to buff up and we had melee LB3 in the tank...I will get this... stay tuned.

[amadouche]

Pretty impressive numbers. Few questions: is the MT applying SE? And, is he wearing DPS accesories?

[Seravi Edalborez]

We both apply SE (SE>BB rotate). I (MT) wear i90 Ruby + HA slaying ring, Cage is all STR accs. 30str allotment, both with HA axe though I have i90 legs+belt as non-i110s.

I suppose one of us could scumbag the other and do SE>BB>BB vs SE>BB but I don't think we really coordinated that, unless Cage was doing it without telling me >_>

I dunno if this was one of the attempts where I missed a chance to Unchained though (usually on PLD).

[Ramset]

We both apply SE (SE>BB rotate). I (MT) wear i90 Ruby + HA slaying ring, Cage is all STR accs. 30str allotment, both with HA axe though I have i90 legs+belt as non-i110s.

I suppose one of us could scumbag the other and do SE>BB>BB vs SE>BB but I don't think we really coordinated that, unless Cage was doing it without telling me >_>

I dunno if this was one of the attempts where I missed a chance to Unchained though (usually on PLD).

For the most part during this setup I scumbag and do SE>BB>BB. Depends on what stage of the fight we're in. For example, when Brainjack is about to happen I SE>BB>SE because you don't have time to re-apply.

I also cleanup the majority of mines so I will miss a GCD or 2 depending on how it goes, this might affect my rotation as well. There's plenty of fine tuning that could be done, and as Seravi said he doesn't main warrior.

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350 is probably possible without 2 warriors, but it certainly makes it easier to have them. It also requires a fucking lot of Paeon, I also don't fracture too often for this reason. There's lots of intricacies around it, but I'm doing literally everything I possibly can. Also, for all the haters, I play on controller.

After I achieve 350 for an end of fight parse, I'll move on to doing 300 as main tank.

[BerenTebogo]

My unmerged are generally between 240-245 for T9 so far afaik, but that was without HA Axe. I haven't had the chance to do T9 with axe on yet. Hopefully we aren't running tonight since I will probably be 100% zombie by tonight. I'd like to get a good run in when I'm awake.

First and second kill parses. Don't have 3/4 hosted and I'm on laptop so idk.

Spoiler: show

Edit: Before people go WTF @ MNK DPS on second parse. That was her first ever day on PS4 and she was using wireless KB / Mouse. Had the worst input lag we've ever seen. Was pretty much an exercise in just not dying to mechanics while doing > 0 DPS lol.

Edit 2: derp, guess I only have 2nd kill hosted, whatever.

[Black]

I dunno. 270 unmerged would be pretty ridiculous. It'd have to be a close to perfect fight as you mentioned lol

i said that because about month ago or so, i saw JP war in twitter did 270 on t9 unmerged and now im trying to find the pic and i can't lol

[Ramset]

Nice Sath. Guess I have some serious work to do on Turn 9 then. Is that with potions though? That's one fight I never use STR pots in. Occasionally I've used 1 at start of fight, but I don't think I've ever used them through entire battle. I imagine that JP war who hit 270 must have been. I'll give it my best effort next week and report back.

I have al alt warrior with much shittier gear and I always compare numbers to my main and they're so disappointing haha

[Kirbyprime]

I'm going to ask a question that I probably know the answer to since this is SE, but, can you macro pots?

[Raldo]

You can drag potions and any other consumable (heck, even emotes and gear sets) to the hotbar... do you need it to be in a macro, or is that sufficient?

My cursory google search says you can't put them in macros, but I've never had the need for it.

[Kirbyprime]

I never checked if there were any instant use pots, but if there were it would open up some off off-gcd options.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Yeah, can't put items in macros. I just make more keybinds for them.

[Black]

Yeah, can't put items in macros. I just make more keybinds for them.

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