Patch 2.2 ─ Through the Maelstrom Trailer Now Live! (03/14/2014)

[Obsidian]

There's no functional difference between not knowing enough people with more braincells than fingers and not being able to get enough people on concurrently. I'm not sure what your point was, unless you're implying that CT Hard Mode would bring your friends back to the game, to which I say, "lol."

New stuff is here in just over a week. If people still won't log in after that, it's not because of boredom, it's because they don't like the game. There isn't a whole lot Square can reasonably do to change that. (No, "should have launched more content than 1.0 and 2.0 combined," is not reasonable.)

[Lokus]

You said you couldn't find 17 (23) non-retards at the same time. Maybe if there was something that needed more than 8, they'd log on more often to be available.

[arus2001]

Doesn't really change the scenario of knowing good people, but never being able to get them all together reliably, if at all. The logistics of that simply multiplies the more bodies you add to the equation with overall cohesion going to shit if the most integral players (tanks/healers) are the ones who can't make it as often. I know it's fun for some to bash people who understand MMOs can't all be 12+ man events, but it's not really in a dev's best interest to spend considerable resources on content only a fraction of your players would ever experience and eagerly repeat. I dare say that's a line XIV is toeing now, but the bigger flaw is lacking meaningful open world stuff as the alternative for those who seriously don't like that shit or know their schedule doesn't favor it all anyway.

[Deelo]

Anyone know what job this is?

[Seravi Edalborez]

I wanna say it's a very obscured leviathan bow. Just because it's about the only other weapon not represented there.

[Alkar]

That's not a bow, likely a sword.

[Deelo]

It looks like a dagger to me....THF time?! They introduced arcanist in artwork too...

[Bilopdop]

Whatever it is the offhand is a Lalafell shield.

[Omniyoji]

Clearly she's throwing the Lala at Levi for 9999DMG

[Cutriss]

Anyone know what job this is?

From left to right vertically:

Leviathan
Roe F? WAR
Lala BLM
Mi'qote M BRD
Roe M MNK
Mi'qote F PLD (bottom in the most awkward posture EVER)
Hyur F SCH (top above the "brick")
Hyur F DRG
Lala WHM

[Cutriss]

That's not a bow, likely a sword.

You can see the recurve of it under the Mi'qote's elbow. It's being gripped in a weird place but it's the bow. Also see the DRG with the world's flimsiest armorgrip on her spear.

[Nama]

I don't normally speculate on jobs etc so I won't comment on that. What I can say is unless the artist forgot to finish the "bow" it is for certain a dagger. The image is pretty hq so of you you zoom at all you can see that the object ends before his shoulder and lacks a bowstring. Who knows what it means, im not expecting much but it looks deliberate and is not a bow.

[Alkar]

You can see the recurve of it under the Mi'qote's elbow. It's being gripped in a weird place but it's the bow. Also see the DRG with the world's flimsiest armorgrip on her spear.

There's no bowstring and it doesn't even look like a bow. Also let's be real, if there were new jobs/classes in this patch we'd know by now. It's something you'd point out in a trailer unless they're going to release a longer version after the next Live Letter.

[miokomioko]

It's a goddamn Archer. Every existing class is represented in that image.

[Obsidian]

I hope more female Dragoons wear whatever the DRG in that picture is wearing.

[Rocl]

I hope more female Dragoons wear whatever the DRG in that picture is wearing.

a broken spine?

[Intense]

It's a goddamn Archer. Every existing class is represented in that image.

Seriously. This is the dumbest thing to be focused on. If they were to release a new job, it'd be silly to do it on a patch. It would likely be released and eventually promoted during an expansion.

One thing that sort of concerns me about new jobs given the fact that, as we have seen with ACN, multiple jobs could/will be branching out from classes (both current and future) is that if let's say that bc GLD can wield a dagger, a THF job could come from GLD. This means that I can jump on my lvl 50 GLD do a level 30 quest to unlock it and all of a sudden I have a level 50 THF that I now have no idea how to play.

Not that jobs are terribly hard to pick up, but I wonder if the dev's will impose a learning curve of being forced to EXP that job, in which case, it'd make a little sense to announce a new job in conjunction with a level cap increase.

[Niiro]

Yoshi has said jobs would be released with patches and not necessarily have to wait for expansions (no I'm not looking it up).

We probably won't see new classes until expansions, but the alternate jobs for current classes are certainly possible.

That said I have no expectation we'll see new jobs with this patch, but I have pretty low expectations of SE overall.

[Lyall]

I'd be more curious how they'd handle Thief having a bunch of enmity abilities and defensive cooldowns and shield skills in that hypothetical. It would be the only melee DPS in the game that isn't completely forced into directional requirements given how GLD combo works. Not saying they couldn't make it work, it would just take a thorough overhaul.

[Niiro]

That topic always comes up whenever there's a discussion about new jobs.

No one knows how they're going to handle it but Yoshi missed a huge opportunity to get rid of the stupid weapon-class-job system with the move from 1.0 to 2.0.

Now we're stuck with it and it's going to make the process of introducing new jobs ham-handed at best.