Delve 2.0 discussion

[Sechs]

Oh, I thought 6 people were actually *required* to enter lol

[Brees]

There actually is a breaking point, mob HP bottoms out at 6 players. There's no difference between 3-4-5-6.

this is right. the way it works is pretty simple. every person over 6 adds 65k hp to mega boss. we've done very many runs now as 6-7-8, and up to 10 on kamhir. seems around 65k is always the case with our scoreboards.

[Sechs]

So it's not a % per additional player, but a fixed amount per additional player?
Hmm.

And what about this stats increase/decrease talk?
Reread patch notes HERE and there is no mention whatsoever about anything other than HP scaling.
Yet I'm sure I've read it somewhere, altough at this point it's quite clear it was wrong information.

[Lyramion]

Oh, I thought 6 people were actually *required* to enter lol

3 it is - 3 manned Marjami 1-3 yesterday a couple of times with THF SCH WHM for easy lowtier drops. Much more efficient than praying for outside NM drops. Also the entry items are really cheap now, cheaper than outside pops.

[Systematicchaos]

So it's not a % per additional player, but a fixed amount per additional player?
Hmm.

Technically if you're basing it off of 18-man, every player less is the same % less HP. If you're changing your basis for comparison then yeah it wouldn't be % per additional player.

[Fwahm]

So it's not a % per additional player, but a fixed amount per additional player?
Hmm.

And what about this stats increase/decrease talk?
Reread patch notes HERE and there is no mention whatsoever about anything other than HP scaling.
Yet I'm sure I've read it somewhere, altough at this point it's quite clear it was wrong information.

Only HP scales. Stats are unaffected.

[Brees]

So it's not a % per additional player, but a fixed amount per additional player?
Hmm.

And what about this stats increase/decrease talk?
Reread patch notes HERE and there is no mention whatsoever about anything other than HP scaling.
Yet I'm sure I've read it somewhere, altough at this point it's quite clear it was wrong information.

we've only notice an increase in hp. no discernable difference in stats on either 1-5 or mega boss

[TMG]

I've tried searching all over here, AH and OF and can't find this mentioned anywhere... is there any sort of prerequisite I'm missing to be able to obtain the new planchette for delve 2? Tried to trade a Phlox Yggrete on 4 different characters who have naakual key items and can get delve 1 planchettes but the NPC just ignores us. Mission progression? Fame? Have to have killed any one naakual since the version update Monday? I feel like it must be so obvious since we seem to be the only people having a problem with it. Thanks for any help in advance!

Wanted to bump this issue. After posting a bug report on the OF and having it moved to the "duplicate bugs" forum with no response from a rep... we've progressed through a good chunk of Adoulin missions and still can't get the new planchette KIs. Is everyone who has been able to get the new planchettes completely finished with the current storyline? The only thing we haven't tried other than finishing the missions is killing a naakual post update since we already have all 6 KIs. Would really like to figure out what the problem is, any insight as to what you may have done that we haven't would be appreciated. One person on FFXIAH says a GM told him it was a glitch but I find that hard to believe since it seems to be affecting a very small amount of characters and 4 of them are under one roof (mine).

[sahearniitth]

I have 2 chars who can both make new KI's. They talked to the NPC before the trade to initiate the dialog concerning new zones. Neither char has killed a Naakul post update but both have complete story missions. However I don't think the story missions is a requirement because there are other people in LS who have made KI who DIDNT have story completion. I don't know if its a requirement, but both chars were 6/6 on the new KI's from lesser nms before they tried to make entry KI's. Both characters have claimed rewards from the NPC for the 3-KI turn in but again that's just a random bit of information that may not be related.

[Systematicchaos]

I have all 6 Nakuaals killed, the old 3 delve bosses down, and tried to trade, but it didn't work. I talked to the npc, traded again, it worked. As far as story progress, I have barely any (none after the first story update), so that wouldn't be the reason you are being held back.

[pancakesandsex]

I have all 6 Nakuaals killed, the old 3 delve bosses down, and tried to trade, but it didn't work. I talked to the npc, traded again, it worked. As far as story progress, I have barely any (none after the first story update), so that wouldn't be the reason you are being held back.

Similar boat here. I have not even passed the first mission fight yet, I have 3 original delve clears, and all 6 Naks. I talked to the npc first normally, then was able to trade.

[dasva]

Maybe kill a naakual with the RoE quest activated? Or maybe after doing them all and getting the reward for RoE you gotta kill one again

[TMG]

I don't get it then... that rules out just about everything I can think of that would be preventing us from getting the KI. We don't have all 3 old delve boss KIs, only Tojil, but I've seen other people on here saying they only have 1 or 2 of those clears and they can get the KI so I don't think it's that. I'm also not sure why they moved my bug report to the duplicate bugs forum when nobody else has posted a bug report on this issue on the OF that I've seen. We are 6/6 on the new KIs from lesser NMs as well as 6/6 on naakual KIs. Have done the library quests for a free piece of gear for killing all the naakuals plus the RoE quest. Finished up to the storyline missions that were added in the February update, mid chapter 3. I have talked to the stupid NPC hundreds of times and she keeps giving me the same text about me brimming with questions and doesn't respond at all when I trade her a rock. We have a fair amount of fame, enough to have gotten the reduced naakual KI price in the past. Used up my old planchettes up so I have none in my KIs. This is really starting to frustrate me. Thanks for the info though. Just means we don't need to waste our time finishing up the storyline missions right now.

[TMG]

Maybe kill a naakual with the RoE quest activated? Or maybe after doing them all and getting the reward for RoE you gotta kill one again

I am curious about this, but I don't think everyone has killed a naakual since the update except us? I guess whenever I see a shout if I have time I'll go try one and see if that works. One of our characters still has the KIs from RoE and didn't turn them in yet for a reward and she can't get it either. We've all done our library quests though.

[rikimaru_gaisen]

Wanted to bump this issue. After posting a bug report on the OF and having it moved to the "duplicate bugs" forum with no response from a rep... we've progressed through a good chunk of Adoulin missions and still can't get the new planchette KIs. Is everyone who has been able to get the new planchettes completely finished with the current storyline? The only thing we haven't tried other than finishing the missions is killing a naakual post update since we already have all 6 KIs. Would really like to figure out what the problem is, any insight as to what you may have done that we haven't would be appreciated. One person on FFXIAH says a GM told him it was a glitch but I find that hard to believe since it seems to be affecting a very small amount of characters and 4 of them are under one roof (mine).

I'm in a similar situation. All my IDs are under the same SquareEnix account. I've re-killed a Naakual (Hurkan) sometime after the update, and have already collected the RoE reward. The NPC just does not respond when I trade one of the newer rocks. Even after talking with the NPC and cycling through all the text, and then re-trading, it still does not respond. I do not get the "extra" text that a previous poster mentioned of. I am able to make the older rocks into KIs fine.

There's a similar bug report under accepted bugs in the Japanese forums dated 3/22/2014 (you can find that report by searching for "Anomaly Expert" in the search field), so perhaps that is why your report got moved into the duplicate section.

[TMG]

I'm in a similar situation. All my IDs are under the same SquareEnix account. I've re-killed a Naakual (Hurkan) sometime after the update, and have already collected the RoE reward. The NPC just does not respond when I trade one of the newer rocks. Even after talking with the NPC and cycling through all the text, and then re-trading, it still does not respond. I do not get the "extra" text that a previous poster mentioned of. I am able to make the older rocks into KIs fine.

There's a similar bug report under accepted bugs in the Japanese forums dated 3/22/2014 (you can find that report by searching for "Anomaly Expert" in the search field), so perhaps that is why your report got moved into the duplicate section.

Thanks! You're definitely experiencing the same problem as us. We were about to go try to lowman the bee to see if that would work but I guess we won't waste our time if it didn't work for you. Since a JP reported it that means it'll get fixed ASAP right?

[NynJa]

Have you killed any of the first 3 fracture bosses?

Neither of my mules are able to turn in (0/3 and 1/3), so it seems that right now a requirement is to have killed all 3.

[TMG]

Have you killed any of the first 3 fracture bosses?

Neither of my mules are able to turn in (0/3 and 1/3), so it seems that right now a requirement is to have killed all 3.

Only Tojil, but there were a few other replies from people in this thread that don't have all 3 bosses but are still able to get new KIs.

[NynJa]

Only Tojil, but there were a few other replies from people in this thread that don't have all 3 bosses but are still able to get new KIs.

My mules and my main have all progressed everywhere similarly, same clears, RoE clears, mission, quest, etc etc.

[CoreyX]

For delving, is there any way to set up chat filters so you see enemies readying any kind of TP move and casting spells, but you don't see the annoying spam of people using weaponskills/abilities/spells? (Without using something like Battlemod)