Delve 2.0 discussion

[Prothescar]

Priwen takes less time than Beatific, so you're still wrong. Unless you want to try to argue that 6~8m is a lot of money in 2014, which would also be wrong.

In any case there's absolutely no reason to have to level and gear PLD, RUN is completely sufficient for almost any activity that you "need" a PLD for if it's played adequately.

[NynJa]

Priwen takes less time than Beatific, so you're still wrong. Unless you want to try to argue that 6~8m is a lot of money in 2014, which would also be wrong.

The slope you are treading on lacks friction, just saying.

3 Leb Wings isnt THAT difficult to get. For most of us, 6-8m isnt a big deal, but for most of us, 2-3 boxing isnt a big deal either, and for some people, playing 1 char is a daunting task.

[Prothescar]

Idk, I figured 6-8m was ridiculously easy to come by these days considering Delve, Dynamis, and Salvage print money, but whatever. Anyway, I'm also assuming that the support is competent enough to keep Shell up, so if they're not then you would want Beatific anyway I suppose. Still, if RUN is already geared and available, preparing PLD is an unnecessary step in the entire process. Sub NIN, optionally make Futhark pants, tank in actual tank gear, profit. There's no reason you should not be capable of completing Marjami (or Kamihr) with a RUN tank. Goes for pretty much every current end game activity, too. The only think you may have trouble doing as RUN rather than PLD is AA HM since he strips shadows too quickly.

[chichicha]

Sorry for off topic...

Any gimmick for Sinaa fight?

[Ramzii]

what is there that would be a gimmick? just turn on mortal blast, it's gaze. it dies in like 2.5min other than that

[chichicha]

Thanks, I'll give it a try...
Mortal Blast = gaze attack instant KO?
Sorry to ask much of question, as I don't find any info from any wiki site.

[NynJa]

You can turn from it, its slow enough

[dasva]

Thanks, I'll give it a try...
Mortal Blast = gaze attack instant KO?
Sorry to ask much of question, as I don't find any info from any wiki site.

Yeah it's always been gaze. If you look up the move or any of the other nms that use it or even just the Coeurls page it says so on the wikis

[NynJa]

Coeurl is almost a freebie compared to the other annoying gimmicks the NM's in that area has.

[Hitou]

Anyone ever figure out what causes Mirka to level up? The one time I fought it, it basically seemed to be random. Acc was pretty bad even with sushi and obviously got worse as it leveled up. Didn't have brd cause I couldn't get a reply for one, which is one reason why acc was so bad.

[Kainstryder]

Thanks, I'll give it a try...
Mortal Blast = gaze attack instant KO?
Sorry to ask much of question, as I don't find any info from any wiki site.

Extreme easy mode: Just have the PLD back tank the whole time, use RNGs, melts in 2-3 minutes.

[Lyramion]

Anyone ever figure out what causes Mirka to level up? The one time I fought it, it basically seemed to be random. Acc was pretty bad even with sushi and obviously got worse as it leveled up. Didn't have brd cause I couldn't get a reply for one, which is one reason why acc was so bad.

We have gone from wild speculations to "if hate goes wild" to "if you WS its face"... yet we haven't gotten to a 100% answer on that NM yet.

[Draylo]

Something that might be useful info, my reaving wind landed 100% of the time on belladonna. Would use it every time she charmed and ppl started turning so no chance for tp moves after.

[chichicha]

Extreme easy mode: Just have the PLD back tank the whole time, use RNGs, melts in 2-3 minutes.

Did a few fight on Sinaa. We went as PUP x 5 and a COR.
Indeed this is one simple fight, we didn't even turn, just fights away from whm pets

Quite fun ^.^

[Fake]

Did a few fight on Sinaa. We went as PUP x 5 and a COR.
Indeed this is one simple fight, we didn't even turn, just fights away from whm pets

Quite fun ^.^

I don't think I've ever seen you make a coherent post. Not turning from gaze death is just mindblowingly stupid

[Raelia]

why would you sub BLU when NIN is the superior sub to use for tanking?

Something about Rune Fencer turns players into drooling fucking morons when it comes to sub selection. At least /BLU is a better choice than /RDM, which someone on Siren tried to tell me was mandatory to tank Hurkan and that /SAM was useless to a tank job.

How to RUN:
If it hits for >100 damage, /NIN. Merit Inspiration, the best fucking merits you could possibly spend in the entire game, and keep your Vals up for instant Ni and floored recasts.

Else /SAM. Use Seigan if you must, especially if it'll eat TP moves. I tanked Hurkan casually on RUN/SAM with 109 gear and a Senbaak, even soloed a few %. I can't imagine the delve version is much more of a challenge with support added.

The next RUN/RDM I see gets stabbed in the face. It's almost as retarded and redundant as DRG/DNC.

[rikimaru_gaisen]

Thanks! You're definitely experiencing the same problem as us. We were about to go try to lowman the bee to see if that would work but I guess we won't waste our time if it didn't work for you. Since a JP reported it that means it'll get fixed ASAP right?

I know on page 15 of the thread Aramaic said they could make a new fracture KI while only having a Tojil clear.

My experience seems a little different.

TMG, I just wanted to share with you what fixed the issue for me. I am now able to make the new fracture (Yorcia, Marjami, Kamihr) KIs. At first I had no Delve fracture clears and did not get the new dialogue from the Anomaly Expert. Then after getting Tojil clear, I still did not get the new dialogue. Then after getting Dakuwaqa clear, I still did not get the new dialogue. Finally after getting Muyingwa clear (making that total, clears on all three old fractures), and after getting the dialogue about turning in the 3 KIs and getting a reward, I get the new dialogue about "hyper-intuitive obscured domains."

If it is not a bug and if SquareEnix requires us to have the 3 old clears before being able to make the new fracture KIs, I don't know why they did not make that clear/mention it in the Version Update notes when the new fractures were released.

[Lyramion]

Little sidequestion:


In JP Delve shouts they always call for a 50/80 WHM. As in 50 Cure Potency and 80% Cure Speed. But I have no clue what is the current "meta" of that 80%. Does anyone have a clue? Is it pure CureSpeed% ? Is that even achieveable?


What's the current mathed out "sane" WHM setup for having a great casting speed without going fully retarded?


My own setup works but is kinda ancient and for lowman. I need something shiny for when I have an R/E BRD in the PT.

[dasva]

Little sidequestion:


In JP Delve shouts they always call for a 50/80 WHM. As in 50 Cure Potency and 80% Cure Speed. But I have no clue what is the current "meta" of that 80%. Does anyone have a clue? Is it pure CureSpeed% ? Is that even achieveable?


What's the current mathed out "sane" WHM setup for having a great casting speed without going fully retarded?


My own setup works but is kinda ancient and for lowman. I need something shiny for when I have an R/E BRD in the PT.

As far as possible yeah definitely up to -86% cure cast speed is available in just gear and then there 20% from merits. My mule currently uses only like -19 and -12 to healing magic but it's super gimp and full times gear lol. Alot of it is fairly easy to get and you might already have. Big peices will be cure clogs, Piety Cap +1,Heka's Kalasiris, Nabu's Shalwar, Aceso's Choker and Pahtli Cape. That right there is 76%. Then you can get something in the weapon or sub slot such as 6-7 on the level 99 healing staff and domines grip or just augmented genbus

[Fake]

What's the current mathed out "sane" WHM setup for having a great casting speed without going fully retarded?

The best answer is to use gearswap or other packet based gear swapping addon/extension so that you don't have to make a combined set.

Hitting 80% in a precast set while using spellcast or windower macros is 100% pointless, because the spell will go off prior to swapping to midcast gear a considerable amount of the time. If you are making a combined set you can't afford to swap out pieces like Orison Bliaud +2 or Orison pantaloons +2, reducing your options for hitting 80%.