Job Points discussion

[Kanriel]

I wouldnt call it ridiculous, would rather call it insane ¬.¬

I would call grinding out capacity points right away to be insane. Merits are the current way to get into most endgame content, you'll gain cp while farming merits for those. I'm going to get most of my cp doing that, not going to go about farming cp just to farm cp.

[Byrthnoth]

Me too. I capped out on the new Delve zones and did a few Ra' Skirmish runs on BRD. I have half a job point.

Watch out, FFXI. The day when my Minnes give 2 more defense per song is coming.

[Revati]

Let's call it JCP.

[Lyramion]

Eh it's insane in its current state. I'm sure in a few month things will get better with new mechanics. It's just a real thorn in the sides of completionists atm.

[sluggo]

cap(s) for capacity points and jpts for job points?

[Fwahm]

Who ever talks about conquest points these days? Why not just repurpose CP for something more currently relevant?

[Aramaic]

Hey now we may need those conquest points to buy a Trust NPC one day so watchout lol.

[Fwahm]

For singular uses like that, just spell out "conquest points". It takes 1-2 seconds.

[Tomiko]

For singular uses like that, just spell out "conquest points". It takes 1-2 seconds.

You forgot this is the internet, there are people who are too lazy to spell out "you."

[Bukadan]

its not about being lazy, its about the fact that it literally doesnt mean a goddamn fuckin thing in terms of comprehension.

[FaeQueenCory]

its not about being lazy, its about the fact that it literally doesnt mean a goddamn fuckin thing in terms of comprehension.

While I agree with you... in principle.
I can't help but laugh at your notion of "needing to make empirical sense without context".

Namely because I know moon speak.
Shit... If you think JP being confusing is hard... never try to learn Japanese.... There's like 6 different homophones for every and any word... not to mention about 8 million different ways of reading a kanji and writing a word in kanji...
Japanese is a 100% context driven language... (it's why they love their wordplay so much)
So I just find it hilarious that they've managed to bring that context drive into the english community by making the abbreviation of a game mechanic the same as the abbreviation for "Japanese".

Besides... I don't think anyone is really gonna get confused about which JP a person means when they read a shout... assuming they ever make JPs more accessible to actually forming parties for getting them.

[Ihina]

Just wondering, what do you guys think is a good cp/hr rate is?

[Priran]

Just wondering, what do you guys think is a good cp/hr rate is?

personally I find the right balance of enjoyability while still getting somewhere in relevant content to be right around 0 cp/hr

[Fwahm]

I'd say a good CP/hour rate would be maybe 150k/hour or so.

It's too bad the most you can feasibly get is maybe 15k-20k/hour.

[Trumpy]

SE mentioned a double capactiy point campaing in the future. Its due to start April 18th

[dasva]

SE mentioned a double capactiy point campaing in the future. Its due to start April 18th

Grinding to infinity twice as fast.

[Ihina]

I'd say a good CP/hour rate would be maybe 150k/hour or so.

It's too bad the most you can feasibly get is maybe 15k-20k/hour.

Well I can get about 35k/hr just dual boxing and I was talking to a pretty high-end friend last night who says he can get 80k+/hr. Even if he was rounding up, it's still a minimum of 70k/hr.

Have some of guys actually tried seriously grinding CP or did you just swing at a few mobs, miss, throw your hands up in the air and give up?

[Damane]

Well I can get about 35k/hr just dual boxing and I was talking to a pretty high-end friend last night who says he can get 80k+/hr. Even if he was rounding up, it's still a minimum of 70k/hr.

Have some of guys actually tried seriously grinding CP or did you just swing at a few mobs, miss, throw your hands up in the air and give up?

80k CP/h? thats like 800 mobs in 60 min, assuming he is soloing ~100 CP mobs, thats like 13.5 mobs per minutes, which i really call bullshit, Fwahms number of 15k-20k/hour seems more feasable. of course its different if he was in doh or woh gates with a full pt.
I tried to setup a pt like 3 times for doh and woh gates, but there is no interest, so I have given up, whatever.

[NynJa]

Pretty sure your friend claiming 80k/hr is talking shit, and its basic math. 80k/hr = 1333.33/min = 444.44/20sec. afaik, no mob right now grants 450cp to a solo kill, let alone a party kill. But presuming that cp isnt subject to party distribution, presuming you can get 450cp per kill, you're still subject to needing a camp with 15 mobs in relatively close radius.

Math doesnt lie. Ulness your high end friend is Pchan, who invites bard and cor's, gets buffs, then drops and kills shit solo with a PL on the side.

[Julian]

Seeing as the point (or at least what seemed to be the original point) of this system was to get stronger through the regular use of a job, going out of your way for the specific purpose of grinding these points is completely counter-intuitive.