Job Points discussion

[Xenorex]

solo skc20 (macro orb) gives 500 cp

[NynJa]

solo skc20 (macro orb) gives 500 cp

difficulty?

[Xenorex]

Very easy

[Sechs]

What's the "tier" list of the Gates zone? I know Woh is the one with the highest level mobs.
Anybody knows of a camp without aggroing or linking mobs in any of the gates zones?

[Ophannus]

Sechs, as one of the people who first found the Twitherym camp as a JP farming spot, I can tell you I have yet to find a better camp. Gates zones have bats but only like 3 nearby(but also IT Velkks) and there's some worms but they're surrounded by IT Efts and there's only like 2 worms nearby. I tried Inner Rakaznar Court but it's just high level Fomors or a spot with like 6-7 Skeletons with 3-4 Fluturini mixed in.

Just take solace in the fact that when ilvl is eventually raised, previously unsoloable camps like Woh Gates' 123-126 mobs will become soloable and CP isn't reduced relative to the difference between target and higher player levels like EXP is.

I'd love a camp of 117-118 Twitheryms that don't aggro/link, as the 113-114 ones are too weak.

[Fwahm]

Experience isn't reduced, either. You get the same experience regardless of how your ilvl compares with your foe (you get a penalty for being lower level than the highest in a party, but that's separate).

[Ophannus]

Didnt SE say ilvl would reduce exp? Mobs con differently depending on your ilvl now(switching gear can change a mob from IT to DC for example). SE said they would lower exp, did they never do it?

[Fwahm]

No, they said they were planning on it. They later decided not to do it after people complained.

[dasva]

However you still have the lvl/ilvl difference penalty which rather sucks especially for mages

[Sechs]

solo skc20 (macro orb) gives 500 cp

Dunno if it has been mentioned already but "Normal" BCs (Macrocosmic Orb) give 700CPs whereas "Difficult" BCs give 1200.

[FaeQueenCory]

However you still have the lvl/ilvl difference penalty which rather sucks especially for mages

But Da~sva~.... "I'm full 117 wayfarer SMN! 117 is a higher number than 109 why would I *EVER* bother with reforging when I'm already 117?"
9_9
I know the pain/stupid/annoyance of which you speak of... But it's kinda just an exacerbated form of how mages have always had -70DEF.

Dunno if it has been mentioned already but "Normal" BCs (Macrocosmic Orb) give 700CPs whereas "Difficult" BCs give 1200.

It's also not split by people either. Did some runs with 5 other humans: 700cap each. Did some with only 3 humans: 700cap each.
So unless Trusts gimped the return, seems to be a static boon based on difficulty.

[sebyg666]

I'm going to ask here since its relevant to the thread title. does anyone know if the job points for bard pianissimo break the 80% fastcast to essentially cast songs at 100%?

[Ophannus]

The Fomor camp is kinda good with the right trust setup(limitless MP!) and perfect for when Twitheyrm camps are fucking full which is forever since everyone bots JP these days. The fomors give more exp than the butterflies and arent so bad, they dont seem to aggro low either.

Can't tell from this pic but its the K-7 room with the Twitheyrms and Shunned Fomors.
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/3930/FsD3oN.png

[Kanriel]

Bots are good enough to exp for you these days? Explains the duo I saw at the twitherym camp the other day where the WHM was repeatedly casting Haste even though the WAR had his Koru-Moru trust out...

[Ophannus]

Yeah, you can bot pretty decently for days at a time or when you're at work/school and make several dozen job points. i can't imagine i'm allowed to go into detail on here without incurring infractions though. But it's annoying when the 3 twitherym camps are full with the same 3 people for like a week at a time and when you /tell them you get an insta reply saying "i'm playing on a gamepad, cant respond". Lol

[dasva]

Yeah, you can bot pretty decently for days at a time or when you're at work/school and make several dozen job points. i can't imagine i'm allowed to go into detail on here without incurring infractions though. But it's annoying when the 3 twitherym camps are full with the same 3 people for like a week at a time and when you /tell them you get an insta reply saying "i'm playing on a gamepad, cant respond". Lol

Train some mobs over!

[Classikmage]

New basement maps are really nice for Conquest Point farming, was doing 130k CP/hour solo with trusts in the new Woh Gates basement with this campaign going.

[dasva]

What trust you using? I assume mostly support since when I played around in there my DD ones couldn't even land their ws let alone melee hits

[Classikmage]

What trust you using? I assume mostly support since when I played around in there my DD ones couldn't even land their ws let alone melee hits

Joachim, Ulmia, and Koru-Moru.

[FaeQueenCory]

I'm going to ask here since its relevant to the thread title. does anyone know if the job points for bard pianissimo break the 80% fastcast to essentially cast songs at 100%?

No.
My BRD is level 50 but I •*HIGHLY*• doubt they would break the "speed cap".
-80% is there because more than that and you start getting ∞s happening.