Patch 2.2 Notes (Preliminary) (03/21/2014)

[Tyche]

Possibly a stupid question. I have to be missing something. What's the difference in what's currently in place and having DF access but only with a premade 8 man party? Just the ability to choose turns and not congregate in wineport?

[Raldo]

It means you can't queue solo or in a partial group. All 8 people have to be with you when you queue (also yes, probably don't have to be in the same zone as the lore entrance).

[Alkar]

Possibly a stupid question. I have to be missing something. What's the difference in what's currently in place and having DF access but only with a premade 8 man party? Just the ability to choose turns and not congregate in wineport?

That's the point but like I said this only applies for 2 weeks. After that it's normal DF.

[Eanae]

Q13: Will the item level be the same for equipment obtained from the Second Binding Coil of Bahamut and the equipment you can obtain with Allagan tomestones of soldiery?

A13: The item levels will not be necessarily be the same.

The official translation makes it seem like there might be something we haven't been told.

[Niiro]

^ So again, once echo kicks in and people can go solo, the non-silence random DF build becomes far more of an actual setup. They had to do something about that, and that's why I initially questioned that kind of fight mechanic that basically begs for specific classes to deal with.

If the ADS mobs were able to be both stunned and silenced it never would have been an issue, every tank and melee has a stun (DRG and MNK have 2, tho Shoulder Tackle wouldn't help in this case).

Due to resists it's not like you can abuse stun on them anyway, HV is the only move that can't be avoided or mitigated so stunning anything else and then not being able to stun HV would be foolish.

[Takiwaki]

The official translation makes it seem like there might be something we haven't been told.

Reins translation of that section definitely give the indication that there is something more, It may be that there will be a way to upgrade tome gear also, most likely from a drop coming from coil maybe.

f; next question will the item level from the new BC and item level from tomestone of soldiery be same?
y; if you compare the items you can simply trade tomestone of soldiery and armor gear that drops from the new BC, then it will be different
y; in 2.0 the items obtained from BC gear level was same so I believe that might of affected some players motivation
y; but this time we put in some changes here so it’s won’t be equal (same)
y; once you play it you’ll understand
y; I don’t want to spoil yet, so please try it out and you’ll understand

f; With item lvl 90 gear how much of the new content can we do?
f; it’s specific question.
y; for those getting ready for start rush from the patch, this information is going to be too valuable
y;We were able to take down EX leviathan and Ex moogle with ilvl 90, so that’s confirmed.
y; so it’s going to be from there.
y; and with the weapon you get from leviathan, you do something else to it and something happens
f; there is a lot this time.
y; this time instead of directly dropping, we have where you do something else on top, we have this kind of stuff in there.
y; It’s not simply you defeated and obtained the item.
y; It’s best to just try it out and find out for yourself. (he’s hiding info to not spoil)
y; You can get pretty good accessory from Ex. Moogle, so I believe people will go to this one
y; Ex Moogle is pretty hard, all you DPS people need to work on teamwork, if I say anything else I’ll get in trouble so I’ll stop here.
f; Thank you,

[Taint]

Thats even more exciting....

I really hope you can Tome i100 then upgrade to 105-110. Having only coil drops as BiZ is quite boring esp if the drop system remains from current coil. Atleast that translation opens up the discussion some.

[Ratatapa]

Did they talked about the conversion rate for the philo?

Lik 1philo : 1 sol or w/e?

[Gokulo]

Did they talked about the conversion rate for the philo?

Lik 1philo : 1 sol or w/e?

Mytho, if that was a typo.

[Ratatapa]

Mytho, if that was a typo.

Oh I though I read that you could get mytho or sold from the philo conversion

[Foxer]

^It's only myth.

I really hope there's a use for the myth gear in the future. Needing it to upgrade a certain piece would make some of the tome gear useful. This vertical progression is just sad as fuck. lol

[Obsidian]

Yes, further exacerbate everyone's inventory issues by putting that carrot on a stick.

It's vanity gear, and I hope it stays that way. It would be so trivial to farm the mythology pieces after the fact if they were forced into an upgrade path that it would be effectively redundant to do so.

[Shenrien]

Myth gear could be used as a base for AF2 that we got teased and the components to craft them come from 2.3 tower.

[Obsidian]

What purpose would that serve?

[Shenrien]

Could be upgraded to i105 gear that would be used as filler until coil spits out your 110 piece? Yay speculation.

[FHT]

Myth gear could be used as a base for AF2 that we got teased and the components to craft them come from 2.3 tower.

That would be very nice, something like the old Limbus system to make them +1 or something wouldn't hurt and would give us one more thing to do (grinding yes... but isn't this game about grinding anyway...)

[Obsidian]

Could be upgraded to i105 gear that would be used as filler until coil spits out your 110 piece? Yay speculation.

What I mean is, why bother doing that? A difference of 5 items levels would effectively be the same situation we have now where you can be i90 without ever entering Coil. i105 gear would be like a 1 stat difference. On top of which, why burn everyone's mythology gear for more stopgap pieces? The people who like Mythology gear for vanity purposes are going to be annoyed because they have to farm another piece, and the people who don't care about Mythology gear are going to be annoyed because it's a nonsensical way to increase your item level above gear that's already crafted and is also meldable. If it's the base for AF3 that's a shitload of work for gear that will still end up being the same item level as C2 (Second Turn of Bahamut's Coil) gear or lower if it comes from CT. Then people will bitch when that stuff gets dated because they put time and/or effort into it.

It makes no sense. It's like wanting the weathered weapon you start the game with to still be valuable at 50.

[Alkar]

What I mean is, why bother doing that? A difference of 5 items levels would effectively be the same situation we have now where you can be i90 without ever entering Coil. i105 gear would be like a 1 stat difference. On top of which, why burn everyone's mythology gear for more stopgap pieces? The people who like Mythology gear for vanity purposes are going to be annoyed because they have to farm another piece, and the people who don't care about Mythology gear are going to be annoyed because it's a nonsensical way to increase your item level above gear that's already crafted and is also meldable. If it's the base for AF3 that's a shitload of work for gear that will still end up being the same item level as C2 (Second Turn of Bahamut's Coil) gear or lower if it comes from CT. Then people will bitch when that stuff gets dated because they put time and/or effort into it.

It makes no sense. It's like wanting the weathered weapon you start the game with to still be valuable at 50.

Welcome to FFXI.

[Detzu]

What I mean is, why bother doing that? A difference of 5 items levels would effectively be the same situation we have now where you can be i90 without ever entering Coil. i105 gear would be like a 1 stat difference. On top of which, why burn everyone's mythology gear for more stopgap pieces? The people who like Mythology gear for vanity purposes are going to be annoyed because they have to farm another piece, and the people who don't care about Mythology gear are going to be annoyed because it's a nonsensical way to increase your item level above gear that's already crafted and is also meldable. If it's the base for AF3 that's a shitload of work for gear that will still end up being the same item level as C2 (Second Turn of Bahamut's Coil) gear or lower if it comes from CT. Then people will bitch when that stuff gets dated because they put time and/or effort into it.

It makes no sense. It's like wanting the weathered weapon you start the game with to still be valuable at 50.

See it as if you were a character in Bleach. Your Zanpakuto grows with you and become more powerful.

[Indomitable Will]

"Limit break effects will now always display regardless of battle effect settings in the Character Configuration menu."

lmao, so I won't ever be using LB3 on BLM again.