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    I'm going to get an Apple TV box from Argos today. That should do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    Just curious, but what is the advantage to getting a "smart tv" if you have a console, chromecast, fire stick, htpc, etc etc?
    Initially for the features, but nowadays the superior panels are on smart TVs.
    The dumb TVs generally are thicker with lesser picture quality in terms of color, refresh rate, etc.
    They also don't look as premium. Compare a Samsung dumb TV 5000 series to the smart 7100/7200 series and you get a premium living room presentation. Instead of a big black fixed plastic rectangle pedestal you have the nonfixed metallic cross or the semi circle.
    Eventually all the TVs will likely be smart regardless of use or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laugana View Post
    I'm going to get an Apple TV box from Argos today. That should do the job.
    Terrible decision. Apple TV is expensive and not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    Terrible decision. Apple TV is expensive and not good.
    "But I got it on sale for cheap!"

    Old model, slow, lame.

    Apple and their IPad 2 sales tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Initially for the features, but nowadays the superior panels are on smart TVs.
    The dumb TVs generally are thicker with lesser picture quality in terms of color, refresh rate, etc.
    They also don't look as premium. Compare a Samsung dumb TV 5000 series to the smart 7100/7200 series and you get a premium living room presentation. Instead of a big black fixed plastic rectangle pedestal you have the nonfixed metallic cross or the semi circle.
    Eventually all the TVs will likely be smart regardless of use or not.
    You are a tv sales persons best friend "it is more expensive so it must be better" most of the time the "dumb" tv's have the exact same tv panel in them as the smart tv's. If you actually read the technical specs of the tv.

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    I have him on ignore as I'll go out and say his cognitively impaired posting was turning me into a raging idiot, but oh man, that's gold. Smart tv panels are better. I'm laughing out loud hard right now. This is the type of person salespeople live for.

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    Actually the best tv panels are on the commercial ones. The ones you see outside as digital signage or stuff you see in a hospital. Sometimes these have less features, ports, or no tv tuner etc

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    My non-smart TV has the exact same panel as the smart TVs, it really depends on the brand and model. I just had no need to pay another $300 for features I already have with my NAS/PS4/PC that do it better.

    Win today is my cat that had a blocked bladder yesterday is doing much better and should be ready to come home in a few hours. Vet wants to make sure the catheder is secure and he's fed before coming home.

    Double up win as a prospective employer had me fill out the company form and will be calling for an orientation date once the managers stamp their approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluefan View Post
    My non-smart TV has the exact same panel as the smart TVs, it really depends on the brand and model. I just had no need to pay another $300 for features I already have with my NAS/PS4/PC that do it better.

    Win today is my cat that had a blocked bladder yesterday is doing much better and should be ready to come home in a few hours. Vet wants to make sure the catheder is secure and he's fed before coming home.

    Double up win as a prospective employer had me fill out the company form and will be calling for an orientation date once the managers stamp their approval.
    Wow grats on your cat and the job!

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    Thanks. Yesterday was pretty brutal with the cat and all, but today made up for it and more. Doesn't hurt that it's fucking beautiful today as well.

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    Before and after
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    The Apple TV was easy to install and use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluefan View Post
    Thanks. Yesterday was pretty brutal with the cat and all, but today made up for it and more. Doesn't hurt that it's fucking beautiful today as well.
    You're Korean. You should have just eaten it at the first sign of weakness.

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    Or is it puppies you people eat. I can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    You are a tv sales persons best friend "it is more expensive so it must be better" most of the time the "dumb" tv's have the exact same tv panel in them as the smart tv's. If you actually read the technical specs of the tv.
    Was a sales person for 3 years essentially.

    The explicit example I gave was a clear cut and honest difference between panels on smart TVs vs dumb tvs.

    They don't use the same panel generally between a low end dumb model and high end smart model, but this isn't an issue to the masses. There are ways things are cheaper and it is not arbitrary. Refresh rate, color reproduction, quality, etc. Typically they mass produce a dumb panel and smart panel for several lines of a type of TV. Its more efficient. A un50h5002 and 5200series share the same panel and one is dumb and one is smart. However, when you move to a un50f/h/fh6200+ things change and only come in smart tvs. I still follow these things.

    Samsung makes its panels brighter to give consumers the impression that it's a better picture, etc, there are many tricks.

    I do read tech specs, its why there's a KDL48w600b at the foot of my bed instead of a kdl50w800/50b. Similar (almost exact) picture except one is thinner (smart TVs generally are as I was saying) and smarter than the other. Its not like idk what I'm talking about..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laugana View Post
    The Apple TV was easy to install and use.
    Yes but you could have gotten something better, smaller, cheaper, with more features, not connected to iTunes, without a need to convert torrented file types, with browser and phone streaming, and not labeled an Apple device.

    Return it while you can!

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    apple fanboys gonna fanboy. just let em have their overpriced sub-par fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Was a sales person for 3 years essentially.

    The explicit example I gave was a clear cut and honest difference between panels on smart TVs vs dumb tvs.

    They don't use the same panel generally between a low end dumb model and high end smart model, but this isn't an issue to the masses. There are ways things are cheaper and it is not arbitrary. Refresh rate, color reproduction, quality, etc. Typically they mass produce a dumb panel and smart panel for several lines of a type of TV. Its more efficient. A un50h5002 and 5200series share the same panel and one is dumb and one is smart. However, when you move to a un50f/h/fh6200+ things change and only come in smart tvs. I still follow these things.

    Samsung makes its panels brighter to give consumers the impression that it's a better picture, etc, there are many tricks.

    I do read tech specs, its why there's a KDL48w600b at the foot of my bed instead of a kdl50w800/50b. Similar (almost exact) picture except one is thinner (smart TVs generally are as I was saying) and smarter than the other. Its not like idk what I'm talking about..
    Again you are confusing the connection between smart and dumb tv's and panels. Obviously a low end tv and a high end tv are going to use different electronics to drive the panel (most of the actual lcd panels are exactly the same and are only made by a handful of companies in the world.)

    This has nothing to do with smart vs. dumb tv's. Most companies if you look have higher end dumb tv's that correspond to each smart version.

    At some point they may be phasing out the dumb tv's because it is more economical or they want to push the smart tv's more or because they can eek out a little bit more money from consumers but there isn't actually any connection between picture and panel quality and the addition of smart features in a tv.

    Brightness and color and other things like that are settings that you can change and control. TV's leave the factory with settings that set the tv at the extreme that make it "look" better in the short term but in reality make it look worse. They set the tv's for the sales floor not for the home.

    For a sales person you sure do sound uninformed about tv's, you know you are not supposed to buy into your own bullshit.

    I was a tv sales person for 3 years too.

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    The correct response was what do you mean you people?

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