Patch Notes 2.2 (full)

[Sho]

All I meant by similar is the use of heavy guitars, base and drums which while slightly different between Titan, Garuda and Levi are still far more similar to each other than Moogle or Ifrit.

Ahh in that case it works.

Dan right too, metal would be correct. Just trying to show his insight into creating his pieces. I don't think any of these pieces would be as good if he didn't use guitar for them.

[Kaisha]

and any decent tank will be able to tank the dungeon on their first time if someone explains the mechanics of the bosses. Keyword is "decent tank" however.

Really depends if an i75-80 freshblood tank can keep hate off i100+ DPS that are way overgeared for the dungeon.

[solracht]

the third Coil track is what you hear when the game switches between the other 2 tracks

[Kaslo]

Really depends if an i75-80 freshblood tank can keep hate off i100+ DPS that are way overgeared for the dungeon.

an i100+ DPS should have enough VIT to tank that stuff themselves.

[Shenrien]

It should be about a 500-700HP increase, if anything that's an extra hit in current dungeons, less if you end up fighting a monster that wont let you los their spells like Void Thunder CMXVII

[Rocl]

BUT DEFENSE

[Obsidian]

It should be about a 500-700HP increase, if anything that's an extra hit in current dungeons, less if you end up fighting a monster that wont let you los their spells like Void Thunder CMXVII

The PLD in the Live Letter had over 8000 HP unbuffed and outside a party, which is >1500 more than I have currently at i90. DPS should see increases of at least ~1000.

[Kaslo]

The PLD in the Live Letter had over 8000 HP unbuffed and outside a party, which is >1500 more than I have currently at i90. DPS should see increases of at least ~1000.

Which should push them over 5500, which is more than most fresh 50 tanks run with.

[Gokulo]

So much hype for the patch and I won't even be able to play for most of the day when it hits

[Spider-Dan]

I know for a fact that in the patch that released luminaries, my 50 WVR, LTW, and GSM were all 0/xxxx for progress. There was a big stink on the OF back then because DoW/DoM's battle progress for the Butcher's Crown was retroactive whereas DoH synth progress was not. Don't know about DoL but I imagine they got screwed like DoH as well.

I think you may be right. I knew the achievement system recognized progress from prior to that patch, but in the 1.20 notes (when Achievements were implemented), they specifically point out which achievements would not recognize prior data:

Progress towards the following achievements will begin with the release of 1.20. No prior data will count towards earning them.

Going with the Grain / Working the Bellows / Pounding Out the Dents / Cutting the Carats / Hiding in Plain Sight / Threading the Needle / Mixing It Up / Savoring the Realm / Mining Your Own Business / Mining Your Own Business: La Noscea / Mining Your Own Business: Black Shroud / Mining Your Own Business: Thanalan / Rocking Around the Clock: La Noscea / Rocking Around the Clock: Black Shroud / Rocking Around the Clock: Thanalan / Logging the Hours: La Noscea / Logging the Hours: Black Shroud / Logging the Hours: Thanalan / Reaping What You Sow: La Noscea / Reaping What You Sow: Black Shroud / Reaping What You Sow: Thanalan / Good Things Come to Those Who Bait: La Noscea / Good Things Come to Those Who Bait: Black Shroud / Good Things Come to Those Who Bait: Thanalan / Getting Giggy with It: La Noscea / Getting Giggy with It: Black Shroud / Getting Giggy with It: Thanalan / Beginner's Luck / I Make My Own Luck / Luck's Got Nothing to Do with It / I Got This!

It looks like those are all the DoH/DoL achievements.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Thinking back, when I said 1.0 progress towards Luminary carried over for me it's probably because I didn't start crafting a lot, including a lot of turbocrafting, until after those achievements got added in. Coincidentally. I just ended up making a lot of Cobalt and Felt stuff.

[Cutriss]

Thinking back, when I said 1.0 progress towards Luminary carried over for me it's probably because I didn't start crafting a lot, including a lot of turbocrafting, until after those achievements got added in. Coincidentally. I just ended up making a lot of Cobalt and Felt stuff.

Okay so reading back, I thought the original poster of this sub-thread was saying "pre-2.0 synths/crafts didn't count".

I do think upgradable crafting tools would be nice, kinda like their "relic" but luminaries were so badly implemented that they should never be the main focus of crafting tools. The grind alone is insane, and the fact it never backdated your previous crafting activities made it even worse - doubling the grind.

So this was my mistake, I wasn't aware of the fact that pre-1.20 progress wasn't tallied toward Luminary tools, and so I thought the above quote was referencing the 2.0 achievement not counting 1.0 progress.

The achievement progress for the gathering did carry from 1.0 to 2.0, that's what I was talking about. (though for some weird reason the fieldcraft/tradecraft leve counts didn't, or at least they didn't for me).

[Rocl]

Tradecraft should've as it was a "local" leve. Fieldcraft wouldn't have because it was "regional" and the regional leve progress was thrown into the battlecraft progress for 2.0 (since most regional leves were battlecraft)

[Cutriss]

Tradecraft should've as it was a "local" leve. Fieldcraft wouldn't have because it was "regional" and the regional leve progress was thrown into the battlecraft progress for 2.0 (since most regional leves were battlecraft)

Oh, that's probably it then. That makes unfortunate sense.

[Selamis]

Ok so I'm late to the party because of work, but if we have already cleared every dungeon in game pre 2.2, we need to clear them again now to gain access to high level roulette? Or just if you haven't cleared any, do you do those first to open up roulette again?

[Enygma55]

You have to have cleared all dungeons in the set to access the roulette. No pharos clear = no roulette access for that set

[Raldo]

I wonder if that only applies to the new roulette, 'cause I've still never set foot in Copperbell (Hard). I guess we'll see.

[Tyrath]

It applies to old ones as well. Better get on that Copperbell.

[nayaminfenrir]

Download just finally went live for me

[BerenTebogo]

So ilvl100 Atma Axe is still worse than T5. Lol.