Retainer Compendium -- My Retainer out-dps' pugs

[Fondue]

Yes, that is how I've been lead to believe you use the PVP materia.

I don't have any personal tests, but that is the wisdom that had been passed down to me from the ages by people I asked who bought the actual PVP materia. Could be they're retarded.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Resist+Materia

I'll go with retarded

[Neon_Sea]

Was there a way to get two of the relic weapons for your retainer if they are doh/dol?

[Rocl]

Huh? Like the i55 weapon? More than likely you can equip your Retainer with it then go buy another from the Calamity Salvager for your own personal use. Retainers can't be DoH though.

[Alistaire]

Can definitely do that. Though I'd also call getting a 2nd i70 tool a good investment. I've been going out just whenever I notice it's 2am/6am, not using food, and just taking what I can get.

[Neon_Sea]

Right on, knew it was possible somehow. Thanks.

[Spider-Dan]

Can definitely do that. Though I'd also call getting a 2nd i70 tool a good investment. I've been going out just whenever I notice it's 2am/6am, not using food, and just taking what I can get.

I wouldn't even bother with a second i70; I gave my first one to my retainer and called it a day.

If you have full gear melds, you can still gather *** items with an i55 mainhand tool + 1 offhand gathering meld + gathering food. The extra few % of HQ increase is not worth the time it takes to get a second i70 tool, IMO.

[Raldo]

+ gathering food.

And this is the reason why I would suggest getting another i70 tool, unless you're making all your own food for cheap.

If I had to shovel down food every time I went to go gather Grade 3 Thanalan Soil, I would stop bothering with it at all. Though the soil has a lower gathering requirement (370?) and doesn't necessarily require food to hit if you've melded the heck out of everything else.

That said, the "good stuff" that comes in via the top-end gathering 18-hour ventures isn't worth your time (Mindflayer -- cheap by this point, Taffeta Cloth -- the most expensive thing, but still not worth a lot, Light Metal Plate -- dirt cheap). I regret bothering with mine. HQ gold ore nearly every day from her.

[Rocl]

Wait.. HQ peacock ore? That's more of a reason to get one imo, getting HQs of philo/seal mats is probably the most useful thing they can give (since the 3 you listed are 25k or less on Excal now)

[Raldo]

Sorry, you must've caught me mid-edit. I meant gold ore. They don't bring philo mats on 18-hour ventures (or at least, they never have for me).

[Rocl]

Sorry, you must've caught me mid-edit. I meant gold ore. They don't bring philo mats on 18-hour ventures (or at least, they never have for me).

YOU SON OF A BITCH. I WAS VERY SURPRISED AND GLAD TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW.

Anyways, yes I've never seen Philo Mats, only Myth Mats. So that's why I was so excited.

[GraveRobberX]

So my Retainer is on some loot drop loop

It's i89 MRD
This is how my daily 18 hour ventures have went for 2 weeks...

3 Silver Bags + 2 HQ Hippogryph Skins > 4 Silver Bags + 2 HQ Couerl Meat > 4 Silver Bags + Mindflayer Minion > 2 Silver Bags + Tonberry Chandelier > 4 Silver Bags + 2 HQ Couerl Meat > 3 Silver Bags + 2 HQ Hippogryph Skins > 2 Silver Bags + Tawny Latex > 4 SB's + 2 Raptor Skins > 4 SB's + Mindflayer Minion > 3 SB's + 2 Raptor Skins > 2 SB's + Mindflayer Minion > 4 SB's + 2 HQ Hippo Skins > 4 SB's + Mindflayer Minion > "Waiting for it to finish tonight" (Gonna guess it be 3 SB's + one of the HQ skins or couerl meat)

[Niiro]

Something convenient I've noticed:

I haven't finished farming up a 2nd forager's hatchet for my BTN retainer so I've been sending her on field Xs, seeing if I can get a gysahl ring.

She's brought back quite a few TIII gathering materia, which is nice because when I finally do get her hatchet she'll have essentially farmed her own materia needed to get 383.

[Spider-Dan]

So I leveled my MIN to 26 in order for my retainer to be able to gather crystals, but for some reason my retainer's max MIN level is 21.

Anyone know the formula for this?

[BerenTebogo]

So I leveled my MIN to 26 in order for my retainer to be able to gather crystals, but for some reason my retainer's max MIN level is 21.

Anyone know the formula for this?

It's your level -5 until you hit 50.

[Berabouman]

Best class for retainers? DoL or DoW/DoM?

I was thinking of having them both go gathering, but I've heard that there is not much difference between all the classes for them.

I have like 6 or so 50s, so it's not a question of levels, just what they can bring back. Is there a big difference in DoL or DoW/DoM? Or is everything about the same?

[Cutriss]

I think generally if you have four retainers, one of each DoL and then just pick a DoM that you're geared for so that they can get your leftovers. Or that will look cool, either or.

Not everyone cares about being able to have all three DoLs represented, especially when most (all) of the FSH stuff is lol.

[Rocl]

especially when most (all) of the FSH stuff is lol.

we'll see what you say when 2.3 hits and i'm able to salvage (aka gut) my fish and get high allagan!!!!!!!!

[Cutriss]

Only on Breams and Sole, because they get to insta-queue. The Maiden Carp sit and wait staring at Duty Finder for hours. Nobody will take then into T7.

[Niiro]

Best class for retainers? DoL or DoW/DoM?

I was thinking of having them both go gathering, but I've heard that there is not much difference between all the classes for them.

I have like 6 or so 50s, so it's not a question of levels, just what they can bring back. Is there a big difference in DoL or DoW/DoM? Or is everything about the same?

DoL can gather anything in the gathering log that isn't a starred* item, quantities max at 30 per venture (dependent on retainer level and gathering stat).

DoW/M can hunt pretty much everything that isn't acquired by a DoL, quantities max at 10 per venture (dependent on retainer level and ilvl).

Unless you're actively leveling a craft or something odds are you'll just wind up sending them on 18h exploration ventures once they're 50 for the daily payout of 3-4 silver pieces they bring back (along with 3 HQ 1* items depending on their class, DoW bring back hippo leather or coeurl meat).

In order to send DoL retainers on the highest level exploration ventures you'll probably need to get them an ilvl 90 primary tool to meet the gathering requirement (383) but I think it's possible squeak by with max gathering melds and using ilvl70 accessories for a higher gathering cap (since DoL accessories only give GP anyway).

[Taint]

Does the i70 quest 18hr exploration have any cool items? I got the Gyshal (sp?) ring from the lvl45 explorations, hoping there is something decent at other lvls.