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[Prothescar]

My biggest problems with the system are thus:

A) Grinding FATEs is stupid no matter how casually you go about it. It's fucking awful and lazy game design.
B) Having to use every mythology tome I get on brave books because they cost so god damn much that I feel like I'm robbing myself if I buy anything else sucks balls. I can't gear my alts in myth armor or anything like that, and Coil PUGs still fucking suck. Half the time they can't clear shit, the other half of the time I have to lot against other people for the shit I want. Fuck all that.
C) There's enough people out there who are focusing solely on upgrading to animus that it's impacted my ability to do other things, at least on Balmung. I've seen only a couple of Leviathan EX PF groups, for example, and my FC isn't always available with 8 people able to do things simultaneously.

SO hopefully most of these problems fix themselves soon enough. I'd like to get a levi weapon at least.

[Detzu]

Completing 1000 fates would have been silly. I'd' better deal with RNG than going for this kind of grind.
It just doesn't suit the pace of the game.

[The47thSen]

Wasn't there a thread on reddit trying to get some numbers/data about the average number of fates/stone?

Currently it's somewhere between 40~60 fates per stone, which doesn't really seem that unreasonable.

My FC master got 10 in 250, I didn't ask how much more the last 2 took. I haven't had the time to begin yet.

[Alkar]

Wasn't there a thread on reddit trying to get some numbers/data about the average number of fates/stone?

Currently it's somewhere between 40~60 fates per stone, which doesn't really seem that unreasonable.

My FC master got 10 in 250, I didn't ask how much more the last 2 took. I haven't had the time to begin yet.

I've spent three days in Western La Noscea( still no drop) and 2 in Outer. 40-60 FATEs each is BS.

[Gilgameshx]

My average was about 400 fates in total. The first 5 took the longest though.

[lolwut]

My biggest problems with the system are thus:

A) Grinding FATEs is stupid no matter how casually you go about it. It's fucking awful and lazy game design.
B) Having to use every mythology tome I get on brave books because they cost so god damn much that I feel like I'm robbing myself if I buy anything else sucks balls. I can't gear my alts in myth armor or anything like that, and Coil PUGs still fucking suck. Half the time they can't clear shit, the other half of the time I have to lot against other people for the shit I want. Fuck all that.
C) There's enough people out there who are focusing solely on upgrading to animus that it's impacted my ability to do other things, at least on Balmung. I've seen only a couple of Leviathan EX PF groups, for example, and my FC isn't always available with 8 people able to do things simultaneously.

SO hopefully most of these problems fix themselves soon enough. I'd like to get a levi weapon at least.

I'm on Balmung as well, I haven't had too much trouble with 1-4 coil parties beyond the normal stupidity you run into everywhere else.

I completely agree on the PF stuff though, there's almost nothing in there but atma farms, brayflox runs, and T1-2 coil. I've been dying to try Levi Ex and finally beat T5 now that it's uncapped (my static always had excuses not to practice/run it when it was weekly), but I've had no luck putting together a full team with the atma madness.

[Cutriss]

Warning, unpopular opinion ahead.

B) Having to use every mythology tome I get on brave books because they cost so god damn much that I feel like I'm robbing myself if I buy anything else sucks balls.

It's because you *are* robbing yourself.

It's an endurance quest. You're not supposed to do it all in one long sprint. The problem is that you can't design long haul content without gating it (which people will complain about), because you'll always have players with nothing better to do than to fling themselves against the wall over and over and over again, doing something that was designed to take maybe three months in the span of a week, only to then impatiently stamp your foot down and say "Is that it? I thought this was supposed to be long and involved."

I think the best middle ground would have been a diminishing returns droprate that resets or rises over time, but people will complain about that too.

tl;dr Can't please everyone.

[Gulkeeva]

I did enough fates, to go from 71,000ish kills to 80,000ish for my 100K kill achievement, no idea how many fates that is, but I'm sure its a fuck ton.

Anyway, the real grind is after the atma's, 13,500 myth tomes is not an easy task. At an average groups 7min brayflox speed runs, your looking at nearly 32 hours in JUST brayflox to get that many tomes. (excluding lookign for group, soldier capping, people taking 5min to load brayflox and the many afk's)

average in 9 books, with 3 fates that have anywhere from 30min - 1 hourish spawn time (and probably having to solo it), 3 random instances that can average 20-25minish each, 100 mobs that can take 45min-1hour (depends on class, and some area's only 3 spawn at a time) and then 3 leves that may not always be up when you check till you do one or 2...!

"Please look forward to it"

Anyway, the animus "should" be your 2nd BIS in 2.25 when it becomes ilvl110, and you can change stats on it (hopefully the one crappy stat you don't want) on it. Its the main reason trying to zerg it and get it over with. Currently working on tomes for Book #6...

[Lyall]

Damn. #6? I knew I'd drop far behind the curve once the weekend ended.

It's definitely supposed to be a "plug at it when you can" sort of thing. I also suspect that their claim that not many will complete it before 2.25 underestimated how badly people will throw themselves at something like this when it's ungated.

[Gulkeeva]

Damn. #6? I knew I'd drop far behind the curve once the weekend ended.

It's definitely supposed to be a "plug at it when you can" sort of thing. I also suspect that their claim that not many will complete it before 2.25 underestimated how badly people will throw themselves at something like this when it's ungated.

After several Korean MMO's, this feels like a normal everyday thing to do (I'm already on an average 12 hours a day in ffxiv, might as well do something!). I'm sure the average player and those that can farm levi ex/T6+ coils won't really too much bother with it... for now, and won't be finished till 2.25 or later when they notice its (possibly) become bis (unless you got T9 on farm).

its really not too bad, if you get a group that doesn't afk constantly, take several min to load brayflox, and goes for hours. I've made a good amount of gil form all the craft mats, especially raptor skins, eft tail's.

[Lyall]

My static only has a remote chance of getting together for a couple hours on the weekend at best, so I'm largely flying solo in the weekday hours and have just been doing roulettes. I should have book 3 in my hot little hands after tonight, but yeesh.

[Lokus]

Well that was fast.

[Gulkeeva]

oh dam, that guys gotta be hardcore haha, I could be close, but...! I got work/classes and T6 raiding ;/ Speaking of which, I will hopefully be finished by sat/sun.

P.S> miqo'te power go

[Crescendo]

My biggest problems with the system are thus:

A) Grinding FATEs is stupid no matter how casually you go about it. It's fucking awful and lazy game design.

So much this..

Not only is it awful and lazy, but here is an actual situation which occurred last night to really highlight how awful it is;

Friend>> Hey what you up to?
Me>> Just farming for Atmas, been in this zone about 3 hours now /sulk
Friend>> Oh I'll come join you, I also need the Atma in that zone
We group up together, friend teleports into the zone and heads to the FATE I am currently in
Friend slowly strolls up to the FATE by like the 20% Health mark, summons their Chocobo Companion and hits the boss FATE a few times
FATE ends
Friend>> Haha, got the Atma
Friend hits Return and leaves the party



(I still don't have it)

[OWS_Tonx]

I've had my mytho capped for a hot minute waiting until I can do my books but I'm having some bad luck on atma farms. That dude beasted though, some work put into that. I took note of my FATE count before I started, which was 316. When I finished farming last night I was at 900somethin and only have 7 atmas.

[Kimchi]

Envy the guy more for being able to complete the fates in the books rather than the myth needed.
They just simply don't spawn that often.

[Kelenae]

So much this..

Not only is it awful and lazy, but here is an actual situation which occurred last night to really highlight how awful it is;

Friend>> Hey what you up to?
Me>> Just farming for Atmas, been in this zone about 3 hours now /sulk
Friend>> Oh I'll come join you, I also need the Atma in that zone
We group up together, friend teleports into the zone and heads to the FATE I am currently in
Friend slowly strolls up to the FATE by like the 20% Health mark, summons their Chocobo Companion and hits the boss FATE a few times
FATE ends
Friend>> Haha, got the Atma
Friend hits Return and leaves the party



(I still don't have it)

not much of a friend if you ask me.

[Raldo]

not much of a friend if you ask me.

and what, pray tell, would you want a friend to do? It's not like they can help you in any way.

[Kelenae]

and what, pray tell, would you want a friend to do? It's not like they can help you in any way.

I would of stayed and helped as long as i could?

[dejet]

Not be a dick about it lol. Be nice to someone who's been farming for hours. Idk maybe "sweet l, hope you don't mind moving on to something else"

Just anything that does not shit on your friend with crap rng