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    so is it true only 4 books you can do atm? or more?!?!?!?

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    7/12

    Everyone I've talked to that is done, willl spend an hour max per zone. I was dumb enough to do 5 straight hrs in bentbranch. (7hrs total to get the atma)

    While it could be just RNG being RNG but I plan on swapping zones once an hour from here on out.

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    Swapping zones should have no effect on how long it takes to get your atmas, unless there's something affecting the drop rate that we don't know about. Given SE's lazy game design on the quest I really doubt that. All the people I know who finished fast just had good RNG and stayed in the same zone until they got the drop. Even had one join the same zone I was farming for 2 hours and get his within half an hour. 3 hours later I was still there before giving up for the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    so is it true only 4 books you can do atm? or more?!?!?!?
    Dammit Iori. You can complete the Animus, the other books unlock as you complete them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    so is it true only 4 books you can do atm? or more?!?!?!?
    You can do over 4, I'm not even sure what the thing... means by its comment (the npc says that but no idea why)

    Here's what I think though...!

    atm you can raise several stats, there are 3 books for some stats.

    Example, 3 books of MND on the atma is only +37MND
    so when you finish the weapon, you get +1 MND etc etc and + weapon damage aka the "final book?". (someone go ask that JP guy what happens after the 9th book, considering the shit you need to do, i doubt SE will just hand you the boost)

    Also, considering from various rumors on the web that the weapon can go to Ilvl 110 in 2.25? 2.3? from some mystery yoshi P interview I can't find, it will probably require more books to upgrade... 1,500 soldier tome books x9 go...! >.>

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    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    You can do over 4, I'm not even sure what the thing... means by its comment (the npc says that but no idea why)

    Here's what I think though...!

    atm you can raise several stats, there are 3 books for some stats.

    Example, 3 books of MND on the atma is only +37MND
    so when you finish the weapon, you get +1 MND etc etc and + weapon damage aka the "final book?". (someone go ask that JP guy what happens after the 9th book, considering the shit you need to do, i doubt SE will just hand you the boost)

    Also, considering from various rumors on the web that the weapon can go to Ilvl 110 in 2.25? 2.3? from some mystery yoshi P interview I can't find, it will probably require more books to upgrade... 1,500 soldier tome books x9 go...! >.>
    I could see 105 in 2.25 110 in 2.3 and 115 in 2.35

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    I assume the 110 upgrade will either require Coil or some new content, depending on when it's launched. Doubt it will require Soldiery since there's already a weapon option that consumes 1300 Soldiery tomes

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Despite massive bitching and moaning, everything I've seen so far seems to support a 2-4% drop rate. Yes, RNG can and will fuck you. But anyone who says they've gone 200+ fates without an atma drop is lying or in the wrong zone, let alone people saying "I've done thousands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    I don't see why they'd patch it. Kinda hoping they don't.

    Also, the method people are using for chronicling their atma time is so god damn silly. I spent about 7 hours total in Bentbranch getting my last atma. That doesn't mean I did 7 hours of fates. I probably did 50-60 fates because it was a bitch to get, but out of every hour I was probably only active in a fate for 20-30 minutes? If you're spending 15 minutes per fate soloing on PLD or something just come back later ffs.
    Generally speaking I seem to average 15-20 ish FATEs an hour. You might only be active for 20-30 mins per zone but I know I've been there pretty solidly for the full hour. There's a few dickish zones where it's impossible to hit that but something like Aleport, it's easy to hit like maybe 25 ish. Like there's 8 FATEs at the Sahagins that all get zerged down in less than 2 mins and are pretty close together and there's rarely ever a time that theres no fate up, they seem to be on around 15 min repops. I've spent 8 hours in that zone with no drop so I could very easily be over 200 FATEs in that zone, I've sacked it off til last because it's annoyed me so much.

    I'm at 6 atmas in ~600 FATEs. I don't know the exact amount but I do know it's at least 600 due an achievement ding. I'm just getting fucked RNG wise but it doesn't make it any less frustrating.

    Sure I could be lazier and put in less effort per fate to tab out more but I couldn't do anything productive in that time as they end so quickly.

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    I just love the RNG have 3 right now, got 1 of them on my third FATE (Ram), the other (Maiden) after 3 hours of farming (on different days; I keep it at 1 h tops) and the other one (Fish) I got after 5 h =/. Looking for Water bearer right now, I think I'm sticking to La Noscea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    deja vu all over again

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    Derp. That's what I get for not clicking links.

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Dying to know what colour it glows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    Dying to know what colour it glows.
    Appears to be purple-ish?

    http://blog.livedoor.jp/hisuikazahane/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    so is it true only 4 books you can do atm? or more?!?!?!?
    There are 4 book categories, each category has a number next to it, totaling 9 books to buy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Damn, that guy must have lived in Duty Finder non-stop the last week....

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    He can have world-first completion, but I'm still hogging my glory for first achievement. PLD shield hax and whatnot.

    That screenshot blows away my theory on the "four books" thing. I figured at first it was only Statx2 and VITx2 until you finished one, then the rest opened. Probably just a mistake or odd translation, since Sword has 4 types and Shield had 2 of its own.

    Also, regarding the final bump for damage: I'm assuming it's based strictly on the conversion to Animus. Shield gained the extra block strength/rate just for getting the bump in name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    Not be a dick about it lol. Be nice to someone who's been farming for hours. Idk maybe "sweet l, hope you don't mind moving on to something else"

    Just anything that does not shit on your friend with crap rng
    Sorry... I just paraphrased my anecdote, I can assure you my friend wasn't really a dick about it. He really felt bad for me, but we both were laughing it off on voice chat at how terribly designed atma farming is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescendo View Post
    Sorry... I just paraphrased my anecdote, I can assure you my friend wasn't really a dick about it. He really felt bad for me, but we both were laughing it off on voice chat at how terribly designed atma farming is.
    Meh RNG is RNG, its no different that pickups and bad players always getting drops in raids.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Swapping zones should have no effect on how long it takes to get your atmas, unless there's something affecting the drop rate that we don't know about. Given SE's lazy game design on the quest I really doubt that. All the people I know who finished fast just had good RNG and stayed in the same zone until they got the drop. Even had one join the same zone I was farming for 2 hours and get his within half an hour. 3 hours later I was still there before giving up for the night.
    The point should be more about changing scenery instead. You'll burn yourself out just staying in one zone for hours on end. Especially if you are constantly in a Party Finder party with people coming and going as they get their atmas. Shit eats away at you, lol. With that said, I'ma start doing the hour zone swaps myself.

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