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**Alistaire** · 2014-06-21 23:15

Originally Posted by coldbrand

Would it be completely insane to add skill speed/accuracy on DRG Lance?

The thing I'm worried about this kind of question is just recently Yoshi said something to the effect of "as level cap raises, skillspeed will be even more important"...which is a real pissoff considering the players have been asking SE to flat out stop putting it on gear, and it begs the question "what's happening to our tp generation then?" Best case scenario would be if you put skill speed on a weapon and then tp starvation becomes a thing of the past. Not something I'm willing to bank on though.

1 question though, pretty sure the answer's no just cause I haven't heard this said, finishing up last +2 int book for smn; are the books for secondaries easier than the books of the prime stats? Or would that make too much sense?

**Raldo** · 2014-06-21 23:41

Originally Posted by Alistaire

are the books for secondaries easier than the books of the prime stats? Or would that make too much sense?

All the books are effectively identical. 3 fates, 3 leves, 3 dungeons, 10 sets of 10 monsters. Some books have harder dungeons/fates, but it doesn't have anything to do with what stat is actually involved.

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-06-22 01:07

Some class (ninja) is getting a passive tp regen ability according to data mined and posted on XIVDB, probably because they will not have access to invig. The thing is, depending on how good the passive ability is, Skill Speed will be awesome to max out on melded+HA gear.

**Detzu** · 2014-06-22 04:15

Originally Posted by Alistaire

The thing I'm worried about this kind of question is just recently Yoshi said something to the effect of "as level cap raises, skillspeed will be even more important"...which is a real pissoff considering the players have been asking SE to flat out stop putting it on gear, and it begs the question "what's happening to our tp generation then?" Best case scenario would be if you put skill speed on a weapon and then tp starvation becomes a thing of the past. Not something I'm willing to bank on though.

1 question though, pretty sure the answer's no just cause I haven't heard this said, finishing up last +2 int book for smn; are the books for secondaries easier than the books of the prime stats? Or would that make too much sense?

The thing is they will need to implement a bigger regain effect on melee classes. SS should have had more value anyway, I find it weird that DET or CRIT are the true secondary stats while SS is a tertiary one despite the fact that in the PUG storyline they clearly tell you that what's more important is your speed.

**Arthars** · 2014-06-22 06:48

SS is great, but i think most people are saying its not good enough because it will kill ur TP faster than you can invigorate, and once you hit that point, your dropping DPS fast and it will become a negative sec stat at that point

if your brd is willing to paeon more than he should, thats good but thats not something u can control

**Alistaire** · 2014-06-22 08:45

Originally Posted by Detzu

The thing is they will need to implement a bigger regain effect on melee classes. SS should have had more value anyway, I find it weird that DET or CRIT are the true secondary stats while SS is a tertiary one despite the fact that in the PUG storyline they clearly tell you that what's more important is your speed.

Yup, but that's the thing; we don't know how it'll all work out. It could be on par with how things are now just with bigger numbers and then too much SS would still be a detriment. Or it could be that we never hear of being out of TP again to the point where PF's say "speed builds only, will check lodestone". Just makes it iffy to either pick SS for novus or to not pick it, for most jobs. I feel pretty safe working on SMN; they'd have to massively change that job for spell speed to be good. SCH seems safe too but idk if I'd extend that to WHM even.

**Buffy** · 2014-06-22 09:44

Also, if they start to address gear diversity soon, we might see stats like TP regeneration +5 and/or Conserve TP +3

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-06-22 16:14

Originally Posted by Buffy

Also, if they start to address gear diversity soon, we might see stats like TP regeneration +5 and/or Conserve TP +3

Has said they won't do that for the foreseeable future.

**Sephiroth** · 2014-06-22 16:16

Wow that malboro. Any tips for soloing it as a BLM? I can solo all of them except that one. Luckily there was a SMN there to stop me dying. It seems to bind you then use bad breath which stops me casting. Will having echo drops be enough for future preparation?

**Ratatapa** · 2014-06-22 16:29

Get close to it so you can move faster to evasde the bind

**Cutriss** · 2014-06-22 16:35

Originally Posted by SathFenrir

Has said they won't do that for the foreseeable future.

I thought he said the exact opposite. That it wouldn't happen until the cap starts going up. And I think we can be safe in expecting that when the first expansion comes out (next year) they're going to raise the cap.

**Ratatapa** · 2014-06-22 16:52

i'm expecting a 10-15lv cap when it comes out, took a long time before the first cap, they better not announce a 5lv cap increase

**Ratatapa** · 2014-06-22 17:27

well it is pretty bright

**Detzu** · 2014-06-22 18:34

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Wow that malboro. Any tips for soloing it as a BLM? I can solo all of them except that one. Luckily there was a SMN there to stop me dying. It seems to bind you then use bad breath which stops me casting. Will having echo drops be enough for future preparation?

Why don't you solo it on PLD?
For my sphairai novus, I just go on PLD sword oath and chocobo lvl 7 healer's stance. I solo all.

Edit : well I duo if you count the chocobo.

**Detzu** · 2014-06-22 18:37

And I eat the bind and the bad breathe

**Madeline** · 2014-06-22 18:55

Spirits the BB. It can be silenced, and Bind can be broken with Tempered Will. No real reason to eat either.

BLM can sleep it supposedly. Maybe try that for an easier time. I'd say Echo/Sleep and summon your bird after for heals. Keeping him out will just have him eat everything knowing their AI.

I dunno beyond that. I wouldn't go near soloing them on BLM. Freeze/Blizz2 binds are probably useful in some way if you have trouble beyond that, assuming they'll land.

**Deadgye** · 2014-06-22 19:31

Using sleep as an interrupt is fun. I do that all the time when I find out a mob can be slept.

**Helm** · 2014-06-22 21:54

I don't really risk solo'ing any of them. I'd rather kill a few extra maps with a buddy than worry about 90k'ing a map.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-06-22 21:57

I've soloed every one on WAR with no issues. Though if I 90k in a map I'd be pretty pissed.

**Sephiroth** · 2014-06-23 01:39

Well I was silly and decided to go down the DPS route for my chocobo, and it's only level 4 at that. So I don't rely too much on my chocobo.

BLM is pretty safe soloing the maps with the Manawall/instant Flares/Physick that you can pull out when required but with the malboro it's the combination of bind + bad breath that sucks. Would be nice to go as PLD for example for that one but you don't know what you're getting until you pop it and I'm not sure I'd be confident doing all of them on PLD. It hardly produces good DPS and while the job will take less damage I'm not sure what will run out first, their HP or mine.

I guess it's just a case of keeping the right potions ready and instant case sleep when needed. Will have to check if there's any potions that help with bind as that's the real killer.

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