Relic / Atma / Zodiac / Novus / Nexus Weapon information

[lilbubbles]

The impressive thing is they go up and down the stairs of the cliff. After the fates they just stand still but as soon as one pops they hop on their birds and off they go.

So where do I get this bot!? lol

My bot is smart enough to know its faster to jump off the edge than go down the stairs.

I can also say that.. over 5000 fates done and I only have 3 alex to show for it.

It is totally worth botting the atmas(i didn't), but botting alex is a waste of time.

I honestly stopped caring about novus and the game as a whole.

The only bots that are worthwhile are the people that are teleport hacking as groups of 4 for myth. Imagine 2-3 min brayflox runs 24/7 I don't have 4 accounts and that crosses my own line for ethics anyway..

[Psion]

I'm still working on my atma spharai myself, so i'm not familiar with the sphere scroll process, but what is the best stat/stats to put on for monk? Is it pure str? (can you even put entirely one stat on novus?) str/acc? str/det?

Wanting to know which materia and how many of each teir i should start hording for when i finally get there. Just finished book 3. x_X

[blowfin]

You can't buff the main stats, and you need to choose at least 2 stats to reach the 75/75 cap. Your options are fully capped DET/CRIT (33/44) or a combination or DET/CRIT and then your choice of ACC/SS (not sure what you'd want on monk really). The advantage of going for 3 stats means you'll need less T4 materia to cap the 75 melds.

Pretty sure:
DET and PIE tiers are 8/8/8/7.
All the other stats are 11/11/11/11.

[kisada]

curious what other mnks are doing too. there seems to be a severe lack of accuracy on post-90 gear.

[Rehn]

Crit/det. Currently sitting at 542 acc in current gear, and 18/75 melded. I figure by the time I actually finish, I'll have a few sidegrades with acc to choose from should I need it.

[Nitsuki]

Going to go 11acc/33crit/31det for mnk, just to avoid on tier IV crit materias but also to have that acc buffer since all my BiS tanks my acc.
Edit: after seeing my build and w/ no HA fists, i do sit on 519 acc if i decide to go full novus, w/ glanz, then i can change my build around usually.

[Obsidian]

Crit/DET on Sphairai makes very little sense to me as you're making a negligibly better High Allagan Claws with no guarantee that said weapon will be usable when the accuracy requirement goes up (and MNK's BiS is lacking in accuracy to begin with).

[Detzu]

Crit/DET on Sphairai makes very little sense to me as you're making a negligibly better High Allagan Claws with no guarantee that said weapon will be usable when the accuracy requirement goes up (and MNK's BiS is lacking in accuracy to begin with).

That's what made (edited) me hesitate between acc and crit. I know glanzfaust exist but I could also use an allagan item to get Burtgang for my PLD. And with the skyrocketting acc requirements I think I'll definitely go DET/ACC.

[Day]

Had this same discussion in BRD thread. It's iffy either way. If this ends up BiS down the road and I've locked in accuracy over crit/det going to be upset I think. As mentioned in BRD thread ACC is something you can get more of on gear etc... I've went back and forth on this myself, but going Crit/Det in the end, because fuck putting all this work into a weapon and not have it be as strong as possible.

[Obsidian]

Fuck putting all that work into it and not having it be usable is my opinion. You can get Crit on other gear just as easily (if not more-so) as you can Accuracy. Acc/DET will give you the freedom to upgrade gear as you get it instead of having your hands tied by which pieces have accuracy on them and will not be significantly weaker than Crit/DET.

[Taint]

Fuck putting all that work into it and not having it be usable is my opinion. You can get Crit on other gear just as easily (if not more-so) as you can Accuracy. Acc/DET will give you the freedom to upgrade gear as you get it instead of having your hands tied by which pieces have accuracy on them and will not be significantly weaker than Crit/DET.

+1 to this post.

Your Novus has no RNG element to it. The rest of your BiS drops will. I'm starting to think about doing Acc/Det on my Curtana.

[Rehn]

For a mnk, what obsidian suggests would make it so you have a slightly better version of glanzfaust... which is just a waste. The moment you get high allagan, you'll won't be using a novus anyways. And if you made a crit/det spharai novus, then you'll be using the same gear you would use when you upgrade to high allagan fists.

And if all this is planning ahead for 3rd coil... then that's just silly. Surely there would be accuracy upgrades when the i120 version of new tomestone when its released. I'm not talking about tanks though, where they must always adhere to the frontal melee accuracy cap. This is just for DPS.

You can make an argument for when novus can be enhanced to 115, but I doubt the process will be short, nor will you need that much acc on anything before 3rd coil. And by the time you 115 it, you'll probably wear 120 of whatever weapon you get in 2.4.

[Neon_Sea]

There is always an alternative, just do whatever fits your play style ( static/time/money..etc)

[Niiro]

People also speak of HA weapons as if they're a given eventuality.

[Obsidian]

For a mnk, what obsidian suggests would make it so you have a slightly better version of glanzfaust... which is just a waste. The moment you get high allagan, you'll won't be using a novus anyways. And if you made a crit/det spharai novus, then you'll be using the same gear you would use when you upgrade to high allagan fists.

And if all this is planning ahead for 3rd coil... then that's just silly. Surely there would be accuracy upgrades when the i120 version of new tomestone when its released. I'm not talking about tanks though, where they must always adhere to the frontal melee accuracy cap. This is just for DPS.

You can make an argument for when novus can be enhanced to 115, but I doubt the process will be short, nor will you need that much acc on anything before 3rd coil. And by the time you 115 it, you'll probably wear 120 of whatever weapon you get in 2.4.

Glanzfaust isn't upgradeable, Novus is. Surely there will be accuracy on i120+ gear, but if they use the same system as the one they're using now, what pieces you can use will be dictated by what pieces you get from Coil. If your weapon already has accuracy on it you can upgrade in whatever order you want (and potentially skip stopgap pieces like crafted i90 stuff).

Acc/[Stat] is future-proof. Crit/DET is short-sighted and potentially unusable later. That goes for all weapons, not just MNK.

Edit: To exemplify my own point, I still have no i110 head, because the High Allagan Circlet of Fending won't drop and I can't use the superior Noct Circlet until the High Allagan Boots of Fending drop because... I need the accuracy.

[lilbubbles]

People also speak of HA weapons as if they're a given eventuality.

Sure, once the lockout is removed... that is an eventuality

[Diomer]

I need help figuring out what other stat to put on my Holy Shield Novus (HA hasn't dropped yet.) I did Parry 31/Acc 22 on Curtana Novus and I'm way overcapped on accuracy at the moment (570ish); I have every T6-8 Fending drop except shield. Only reasons I'd potentially put accuracy on shield would be to future-proof it and to save gil since I'd need 500k in Deter IVs otherwise. Thoughts?

[Seravi Edalborez]

I would go Det+Acc+w/e remainder, so not really helping your moral dilemma any. But I undervalue Parry so *toot*

[Niiro]

Sure, once the lockout is removed... that is an eventuality

Right, the same patch that adds the ilvl120 stage of Novus.

/eyeroll

[chichicha]

For Animus question, can I have more than 1 book purchased ?