.DAT Mining: 4/7/2014 Update - Findings and Discussion

[nivlakian]

Good point. I thought for sure it was regain+1. I stand corrected.

Unless it was changed at some point, it does say Regain+1.

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[Tarage]

Where, exactly? You can already use every possible refresh slot without -2 extra perpetuation on a staff.

Untrue. I don't use favor either. The key is, I never run out of MP, even with keeping my avatar out all the time and always BPing when the timer is down. I don't unsummon if I don't want to.

Take it to PM with me if you must continue this argument.

[CoreyX]

Untrue. I don't use favor either. The key is, I never run out of MP, even with keeping my avatar out all the time and always BPing when the timer is down. I don't unsummon if I don't want to.

Take it to PM with me if you must continue this argument.

Who the hell still uses favor? There's no benefit whatsoever to -2 more perpetuation, you're not giving up any mysterious "refresh slots" which you have failed to mentioned.

[Alistrianna]

Uffrat +2 or new staff(-5 perp) Oneiros grip (+1 refresh sometimes)
Convoker's Horn +1 (+2 refresh) Moonshade Earring (+1 refresh sometimes)
Hagondes Coat (+2 refresh. -5 perp), Evoker's Ring (-1 perp)
Fucho-no-obi (+1 refresh sometimes), Nares Trews (+1 refresh), Convoker's Pigaches (-4 perp)

Hands could be serpentes when refresh is active using perp -4 feet.
Feet could be serpentes when refresh is active using perp -4 hagondes cuffs.

You dont need magians to get max refresh.

I could take it a step further with Chrysopeia torque and Poison Taster's Cape if you wanna poison yourself lol.

[Kormak]

Sorry first time downloading the patch itself, which folder should you put it in?

Thanks in advance.

[Syntex]

I just got my Uffrat+1 with -5 prep and if I knew this was coming I would have waited.

I just hope having it saves me some headache of having to hunt this down.

Also after capping prep at -14 you want refresh pieces. I currently get 3mp/tic with an avatar out in my idle set and I only have the reforged AF horn. With a bit more work I could boost that up to 7mp/tic with Nares Trews, moonshade, +2 refresh body and 8 with the latent grip under 75% mp. That's almost enough to BP forever without MP issues.

[Alistrianna]

Ok. I'm with Tarage on teh SMN staff now ONLY because it looks like Astral Signa.....

[CoreyX]

Yeah I just saw the icon myself, eww.

[Seol]

Not only do most JSE weapons are underwhelming, but also use the most ugly models of all weapons, specially the Rune models, and I wish they'd stop using chasubles too, dear good, it reminds me of 2005 Septimus/Rocl/Hirronimous RDMness bashing days lol.

[Kyte]

Hmmm, so the regain effect is only there when using a samba... Would using a low tp cost samba with the duration give more tp than the cost of said samba using this dagger? I never really understood why dnc didnt get regain somehow in the way mages get refresh for all these years Since their cures rely on tp. I dont think 1 regain would be overpowering either natively or thru a weapon/armor.

If you're on DNC, 9 times out of 10 you're probably already using a Samba.

[Trumpy]

What i meant was if idle i dunno why i didnt put that in there lol. If there was ever a time you would be idle for a bit and could use a samba when just standing there.

oh wow the blm staff is that gnat model?

[FaeQueenCory]

Ok. I'm with Tarage on teh SMN staff now ONLY because it looks like Astral Signa.....

LMAO
That's EXACTLY what I said too...

God, us SMNs are vain.

[Trumpy]

Well the website is up but not the launcher yet.

[Foldypaws]

What i meant was if idle i dunno why i didnt put that in there lol. If there was ever a time you would be idle for a bit and could use a samba when just standing there.

Yes, you'd get TP from using Drain Samba. Even without duration enhancing, it costs 10TP, and lasts 20 ticks, so you'd net 10 TP from using it just standing around. (more with enhances samba duration obviously)

Edit: Looking at the other Sambas, your best bet is Aspir Samba. 15 TP, lasts 40 ticks.

[dasva]

So I wonder if the new /checkparam average ilvl corresponds to what the game uses to determine what mobs check as

[Indalecia]

Ok. I'm with Tarage on teh SMN staff now ONLY because it looks like Astral Signa.....

1) dat swaps
2) Skirmish gear stone randomness sucks
3) Tarage is wrong and you all need to stop mucking up the thread. Everyone gets it but him.

[Hirronimus]

Oracle set grrrr

[Alistrianna]

RUN gets awesome new GS model. Everyone else: lets recycle some trash!

[Hitou]

So I wonder if the new /checkparam average ilvl corresponds to what the game uses to determine what mobs check as

According to the update notes it does. Also lets you know what your trusts check as for item lvl.

[bobthetaru]

well POL is still down for me, but if you check FFXIAH the servers are full of japanese shouts already.