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    Well, specifically I mean his point that Takei's suggestion would make the new character "the token gay guy" is valid. If they're gonna do it at all do it with an existing character; this isn't exactly a franchise where adding someone new in would make much sense at all, let alone have that new guy be some kind of political statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Well, specifically I mean his point that Takei's suggestion would make the new character "the token gay guy" is valid. If they're gonna do it at all do it with an existing character; this isn't exactly a franchise where adding someone new in would make much sense at all, let alone have that new guy be some kind of political statement.
    If it was conceived from the start it could have worked. If they were willing to blow up Vulcan, a new crew member could have been worked in. But we're past that and making this universes Sulu gay is pretty much the shortest distance between two points.

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    So people are fine with this, but not with Ghostbusters?

    This place is fucking confusing.

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    What's confusing. I'm not fine with it. I nothing it. It's Irrelevant and with Takei here but it's not like it's on the scale of disappointment and fuckery as Ghostbusters. If you think it'a remotely similar you're massively misunderstanding and misrepresenting the issues with GB and I'm not derailing this thread to explain it further as the GB thread being a hot mess is already enough. Do research and stray from sites that tell you it's the Patriarchy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    What's confusing. I'm not fine with it. I nothing it. It's Irrelevant and with Takei here but it's not like it's on the scale of disappointment and fuckery as Ghostbusters. If you think it'a remotely similar you're massively misunderstanding and misrepresenting the issues with GB and I'm not derailing this thread to explain it further as the GB thread being a hot mess is already enough. Do research and stray from sites that tell you it's the Patriarchy
    This. I'm not fine with it either, the only thing I agree with is that if they're determined to do it, making it Sulu is the least terrible way to do it.

    And big fat ditto on these not being the same thing at all; assuming any scene revealing Sulu to be gay isn't acted as horribly as the stuff we've seen from the new Ghostbusters.

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    Unless John Cho turns Sulu into a total flamer, the characters sexual orientation is completely irrelevant.
    He'll probably end up waking up in a bed with some random dude in a 10 second scene, and that'll be the end of it.

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    Exactly.

    I actually like that its a previously established character who is gay because the idea is that its not abnormal and its not something you have to explicitly spell out. It was not an issue in the Trek world so you don't find out until you see it happen. That's how it should be in real life too, but obviously its not. I'm okay with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyis. View Post
    Unless John Cho turns Sulu into a total flamer, the characters sexual orientation is completely irrelevant.
    He'll probably end up waking up in a bed with some random dude in a 10 second scene, and that'll be the end of it.
    Except that it's not the end of it now that we have news articles about 2 actors' competing opinions on the subject. I'm just hoping it doesn't escalate.

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    Release date in the title is wrong and really fucked me up haha. Went to see The Secret Life of Pets and couldn't figure out why the theatre wasn't jam packed.

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    Hopefully seeing this next weds.

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    They are showing the movie this Wednesday at San Diego Comic Con outside which will be interesting. All of the stars are expected to show up. Here is a quick photo of the venue, I'll post more later

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    There is going to be a full orchestra there playing the soundtrack as well.

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    thats gonna be a cool experience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TummieGaruda View Post
    They are showing the movie this Wednesday at San Diego Comic Con outside which will be interesting. All of the stars are expected to show up except for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
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    So I was trying to think of what else I'd seen him in and remembered, he was in the Fright Night remake. Which I thought was pretty decent overall, especially his role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    So I was trying to think of what else I'd seen him in and remembered, he was in the Fright Night remake. Which I thought was pretty decent overall, especially his role.
    He was also Kyle Reece in Terminator Salvation

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    Yeah, I knew that one, and Odd Thomas which was really good. Pretty sure Fright Night was the only thing I'd seen him in but forgotten about. And others have mentioned all his recent mainstream movies other than that one so thought I'd mention it.

    He's also got several in the completed/post-production stages listed on imdb, so this won't be his last film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    Is that coming out in North America? I could only find a UK release date.

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    Edit: I'm an idiot.

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    It has come and gone in America. Okay movie.

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