.DAT Mining: 5/14/2014 Update - Findings and Discussion

[dasva]

What's with this KI? Is it implying that there's a subquest for afterglow Ergon weapon like if you trade in extra HP Baylds?



Or maybe just by completing the Ergon weapon, you acquire this KI automatically which grants afterglow for even the base Ergon weapon? Seems plausible since Ergon weapons take longer than Mythics? There's no corresponding KI for GEO probably because bells/horns/harps don't get afterglow effects.

Not sure but it's the name of the BC fight in the RUN ergon line

[Prothescar]

We already have KIs like Quiescence. Look at "Enlightened Endeavor".

Bestowed upon rune fencers endeavoring to ascend to greater heights, the character itself continuously exudes an occult aura around its bearer.

It's just flavor text

[NynJa]

Anyone else having trouble landing stun with violent flourish? I literally could not land it at all in salvage after this update.

This was in the patch thread from news, but I just did salvage and I couldnt land any stuns on either Khim, before the only way I would miss is if the ability missed.

[Damane]

This was in the patch thread from news, but I just did salvage and I couldnt land any stuns on either Khim, before the only way I would miss is if the ability missed.

lets hope it doesnt join the ranks of spells/WSs that cant land additional effects for shit :/

[Prothescar]

this is clearly just SE's idea of a fix. instead of finding out how to make spells and WSs that are broken work again, they instead are aiming to break the rest of them!

[Malithar]

Anyone made any headway into stage 3 of the Ergons yet? Figured someone would post, but just wanted to double check. Getting this 2500 is proving to be much more annoying than I thought. Everyone has bayld, but very few want to use it up. Shouting after WKRs isn't too bad to catch the singles people don't want to bother with, but there's maybe 20-30 people at WKRs anymore, rather than hundreds. :/ At a measly 246/2500 so far.

[dasva]

Anyone made any headway into stage 3 of the Ergons yet? Figured someone would post, but just wanted to double check. Getting this 2500 is proving to be much more annoying than I thought. Everyone has bayld, but very few want to use it up. Shouting after WKRs isn't too bad to catch the singles people don't want to bother with, but there's maybe 20-30 people at WKRs anymore, rather than hundreds. :/ At a measly 246/2500 so far.

Damn I'm going to have to compete against you aren't I? Lol I'm still stuck on fight though part of that is actually having so much other stuff to do. But yeah 2500 hp comes out to what 25mil balyd... yeah even with my mules that will be hard. Time to start afking on reives I guess

[Malithar]

Yeah. You're not the only one though, know 3 Runs who plan on going for it who won't sell and buy any they see for cheap. Don't know any other Geo's planning on going for it, but, -DT cap lacking, -99% DT Loupans too sexy to not go for. That JP Griffith is running around all gil capped and shit buying any he sees for 50k, making people think the shits worth that much. hi2u 750 mil+ mythic. -.- At this point, I'd of preferred they just did alex.

[Damane]

Yeah. You're not the only one though, know 3 Runs who plan on going for it who won't sell and buy any they see for cheap. Don't know any other Geo's planning on going for it, but, -DT cap lacking, -99% DT Loupans too sexy to not go for. That JP Griffith is running around all gil capped and shit buying any he sees for 50k, making people think the shits worth that much. hi2u 750 mil+ mythic. -.- At this point, I'd of preferred they just did alex.

I am confused i thought pet -DT caps at 85%, with the innate -50% DT all you need is the club and the hands and you reach the cap? I am bit hesitent on the club, because if they release more -dt gear for luopan it might render the club less usefull to some degree.

[dasva]

I am confused i thought pet -DT caps at 85%, with the innate -50% DT all you need is the club and the hands and you reach the cap? I am bit hesitent on the club, because if they release more -dt gear for luopan it might render the club less usefull to some degree.

87.5%. Used to actually not have a cap they litterally added the cap right after I got 100% on bst...
Anyways you wouldn't be quite capped but pretty close

[Priran]

That JP Griffith is running around all gil capped and shit buying any he sees for 50k, making people think the shits worth that much. hi2u 750 mil+ mythic. -.-

it's certainly worth more than I've seen people trying to buy it for. if people can't be bothered converting their bayld stockpiles to HP bayld, you're not offering enough. have fun trying to convince people a rem currency you can farm maybe 10 of in a day is worth 10k

[Malithar]

it's certainly worth more than I've seen people trying to buy it for. if people can't be bothered converting their bayld stockpiles to HP bayld, you're not offering enough. have fun trying to convince people a rem currency you can farm maybe 10 of in a day is worth 10k

So what would you say it's worth? I've tried 20k and still nothing. If 15600 is really the total needed, anything beyond that is asine for Geo and Run, jobs that are cool/fun in their own regard, but I'd sooner throw that much money at something like Brd or Whm. I guess it more falls onto SE for having the system the way it is. It certainly doesn't help that bayld has uses beyond HPs as well, the 117 armor tomorrow, items and KIs from coalitions (new HELM KIs from Pioneers, if that's your fancy), the 7th WKR, dev notes saying they're going to be adding new gear to WKRs, etc.

That air of uncertainty of if your investment is going to pay off that has plagued SoA is hitting this as well. What if someone dumps millions of bayld into HPs, then next update we get new gear, new WKR, some new system, etc, that all relies on it. Shits vicious.

87.5%. Used to actually not have a cap they litterally added the cap right after I got 100% on bst...
Anyways you wouldn't be quite capped but pretty close

Damn, didn't even know about the cap. :/

[Priran]

So what would you say it's worth? I've tried 20k and still nothing. If 15600 is really the total needed, anything beyond that is asine for Geo and Run, jobs that are cool/fun in their own regard, but I'd sooner throw that much money at something like Brd or Whm. I guess it more falls onto SE for having the system the way it is. It certainly doesn't help that bayld has uses beyond HPs as well, the 117 armor tomorrow, items and KIs from coalitions (new HELM KIs from Pioneers, if that's your fancy), the 7th WKR, dev notes saying they're going to be adding new gear to WKRs, etc.

That air of uncertainty of if your investment is going to pay off that has plagued SoA is hitting this as well. What if someone dumps millions of bayld into HPs, then next update we get new gear, new WKR, some new system, etc, that all relies on it. Shits vicious.

at this point, where we don't know what the last stage looks like, 30-40k. if it ends up being that the next stage doesn't use as many as predicted, it could end up close to heavy metal price. if you really do need over 10,000 then demand will drop and they could end up closer to 20k.

it's really another aspect SE fucked up, because they teased those SoA rems (besides these ergon weapons; concept art floating around) and lots of people in my LS are holding onto their bayld just in case it's needed for those too.

[Ophannus]

Anyone test Jungle Nectar? Seems like a rather lame food

Immediately noticable: MND+3, VIT-2, MP+10.
Didn't test with pets. Someone else will have to do that.

Wonder if it gives MAB to pets.

[Prothescar]

could be hMP or MACC for the player. probably nothing special though since it's purchasable from an NPC. Price is high for such a shit food but... par for the course.

[CoreyX]

Someone on my server is also buying up all HP Bayld at 50,000 gil too so that looks like the current price they're worth, so yeah, good look making a GEO/RUN mythic unless you have capped gil. Looking to be at least 750 million before you consider any of the other requirements.

[Ihina]

Not entirely sure where to put this, so I'll put this here.

Did the puppet in peril fight today, normal difficult. The thing takes jack squat as far as melee damage goes, but pretty decent magic damage. At 10%, I hit manafont/SS and spammed stone spells. Cleared about 9% in 20 seconds; about 13674 damage, so maybe about 150k hp. Full nuke gear except Icesoul instead of Acumen Ring and Aureole instead of Ombre Tathlum, along with sandstorm+Klimaform just about capped me. I can kinda see pld healer blmx4 doing normal pretty easily; wait about a minutes to let pld build hate then pop manafont/SS and nuke it down. Main NM should die in like 5 minutes if the blms are well geared enough.

If any group still has people who have blm well geared, I would love to know how well a 4-man meteor does on this thing. Hell maybe even 6-man; should be able to open with Meteor and manafont/SS it down.

Hate was kinda weird though, seems to like bouncing around a lot. I was also SA/TA Mercy Stroke'ing it on a different character, they were all hitting from 800 (with def up I assume) to 1300 (multi-hit proc), so it doesn't look like hitting it from the front or rear mattered.

[Draylo]

I think its been soloed on SCH on difficult mode. Should be easy for a mage party.

[CoreyX]

Wow, the way that guy plays the game is extremely weird. Is that a Tupsimati though?

[pancakesandsex]

I wonder if modus veritas will actually land on him...