.DAT Mining: 5/14/2014 Update - Findings and Discussion

[Fake]

Why are people complaining about the Legend rank prereq as if they're sitting on 200 million bayld or something? Just do the assignments little by little while gradually acquiring bayld from them and other sources. No point in complaining about the coalition rank prereq unless you somehow managed to acquire a few thousand High Purity Baylds before finishing coalitions ranks.

Are you handicapped, even with 5hr tags its almost half a year of a completely artificial barrier.

Even if it did require 200million bayld (seems like a massive overestimation), this is a dumbfuck retarded time gate.

[Fwahm]

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Also I edited that post, I realized something after I wrote that

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He serves the leader of the Cimmerian Adherents, he doesn't serve AS the leader.

[Priran]

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He serves the leader of the Cimmerian Adherents, he doesn't serve AS the leader.

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O. I can read, I swear

My theory is that the mission August gave him was to lead the Blackthorn Coven; unlike the other Naakuals he can't still be leading the original forces he was associated with (the umbrils), and the witches seem to be a darkness-aligned force that protects the forest, which would make sense

[Spira]

been busy.
http://wilddragonchase.blogspot.sg/2...date-data.html

more when i have more time

[Priran]

been busy.
http://wilddragonchase.blogspot.sg/2...date-data.html

more when i have more time

I did not see sexy dvergr at any point during the missions. Red and black with a skull face, though?

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It's probably Hades

Also, random blank grauberg map?

[Damane]

Are you handicapped, even with 5hr tags its almost half a year of a completely artificial barrier.

Even if it did require 200million bayld (seems like a massive overestimation), this is a dumbfuck retarded time gate.

well your fault you didnt keep up with assignments and ranking up i guess? and you need to get to legend only once for both weapons.

[Priran]

well your fault you didnt keep up with assignments and ranking up i guess?

Is it though? You could say that about Mythic prereqs because at least those were relevant endgame and had rewards, but coalition assignments aren't and didn't. Anybody who actually had coalitions maxed before it was announced RUN/GEO were getting mythics was basically hedging that they'd be a prereq for something eventually, and I don't see how it's someone's fault they didn't do something when it had no reward. It's like if one of the mythic prereqs was raising a monster to last in Diablo Pit for 100 rounds.

[Fwahm]

When did Assaults and Nyzul v1 have relevant endgame rewards, other than like, Divisor ring and mythic WS for the few jobs that they were useful for? You could farm assault points for Salvage at the very lowest assault rank.

[ccl]

When did Assaults and Nyzul v1 have relevant endgame rewards, other than like, Divisor ring and mythic WS for the few jobs that they were useful for? You could farm assault points for Salvage at the very lowest assault rank.

Assault was relevant for captain and free runic portal

[Damane]

Is it though? You could say that about Mythic prereqs because at least those were relevant endgame and had rewards, but coalition assignments aren't and didn't. Anybody who actually had coalitions maxed before it was announced RUN/GEO were getting mythics was basically hedging that they'd be a prereq for something eventually, and I don't see how it's someone's fault they didn't do something when it had no reward. It's like if one of the mythic prereqs was raising a monster to last in Diablo Pit for 100 rounds.

mythic prerequesit werend announced either, not many people had back then captain rank, all ToaU king titles, odin and salvage titles. ESPECIALLY ToaU kings titles and Odin title. People started bothering with captain rank after mythics were released and everyone saw the prerequesit.

This is also kinda the Devs way to give gratitude to the people that bothered with the expansion content they put out, aside from delve skirmish etc. that gave instant rewards.

It is the mythic equivalent,

assignments are the equivalent of assaults!

[Fwahm]

Assault was relevant for captain and free runic portal

Captain itself wasn't relevant until Mythics, though, which is the point. And free runic portals? That was like 100 imperial standing, which is nothing. Having high ranks in coalitions is way more useful, with easy exp/bayld for a couple minutes of work.

Talking about mythic, assaults were possibly WORSE than the coalition ranks thing, as you literally couldn't even work on the 2nd half of the assaults until they came out with the mythic quest. You could do all of the coalition part beforehand, in comparison.

[Damane]

and i wouldnt be surprised if the new legendary weapons would require you to have all the new coal ranks. so i'd better start workign on those

[dasva]

Is it though? You could say that about Mythic prereqs because at least those were relevant endgame and had rewards, but coalition assignments aren't and didn't. Anybody who actually had coalitions maxed before it was announced RUN/GEO were getting mythics was basically hedging that they'd be a prereq for something eventually, and I don't see how it's someone's fault they didn't do something when it had no reward. It's like if one of the mythic prereqs was raising a monster to last in Diablo Pit for 100 rounds.

Easy xp/balyd for various things. Cheaper wkr. Sure that's not enough to encourage capping all. But enough to make getting legend afterwards trivial... plus after you get bored with that you can store a couple hundred of tags vs the 4-5 with assault

[Priran]

mythic prerequesit werend announced either, not many people had back then captain rank, all ToaU king titles, odin and salvage titles. ESPECIALLY ToaU kings titles and Odin title.

This is also kinda the Devs way to give gratitude to the people that bothered with the expansion content they put out, aside from delve skirmish etc. that gave instant rewards.

It is the mythic equivalent,

assignments are the equivalent of assaults!

1.None of those things have a mandatory 8 month wait attached, and most people had made significant progress into Captain, Odin, and Chariots even if they hadn't completed those.
2.If they'd announced those mythics a little earlier than a year into the expansion, you'd have a point. People only found out they were happening recently, and until the update a fair amount of people thought they would be literal mythics. So people could only reasonably be expected to start working on "mythic-esque" prereqs a couple months ago.
3.It's the dev's fault nobody did coalitions, they made the choice to design bayld as literally worthless. Furthermore, the fix for a broken job shouldn't be attached to a "thanks for playing neglected content".

[CubsWoo]

If the total stone count needed is 200 ghastly -> 200 verdigris -> 200 wailing, that's trivial if you've kept up with RoE timed quests - you can convert 1 copper voucher into 1000 obsidian fragments and you can buy 200 of each for 70000 fragments. The only real timesink there would be getting one at a time from Ornery Dhole but they'll probably change it to let you buy stacks in another update if people complain enough on the official forums.

[Toth]

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He is obviously

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that Voldamire of whoever the guy wearing the green Paeon gear. The guy always looks...so unnatural. If not, it could also be Hildebard.

[Fwahm]

From my experience, significantly more people have gotten significant coalition progress than they had made nyzul or captain progress.

[ccl]

Still even back then, it wasn't 240days+, and we're talking about the 1% drop rate/30k exp/h merit camp era, yes it was harder to kill ToAU king and stuff than do coal assignment, I would have been ok if those ergon wpn were hard to get, not a 8-9months gate with easy to get stuff for anyone with enough gil.

[Fwahm]

He is obviously

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that Voldamire of whoever the guy wearing the green Paeon gear. The guy always looks...so unnatural. If not, it could also be Hildebard.

You mean Xol?

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I assumed that he's still deep inside Ra'kaznar, given his status, but if he's someone we've met before, I'd more believe he's Teodor over the Exorcist Maester.

[Fwahm]

Still even back then, it wasn't 240days+, and we're talking about the 1% drop rate/30k exp/h merit camp era, yes it was harder to kill ToAU king and stuff than do coal assignment, I would have been ok if those ergon wpn were hard to get, not a 8-9months gate with easy to get stuff for anyone with enough gil.

It wasn't ~200 days like coalitions are, but it's still 160 days that required 3-6 people on every single step of the way, 50 of which couldn't be worked on at all before mythics were released. I'd much rather have the current system if I was starting from scratch back when both systems were released.