Unlocking Empyrean Weaponskills

[Shadowmeld]

Sorry to do this buy my searching skills suck and I don't seem to be able to find it.

Is there a way to unlock empyrean weaponskills without going through the annoying NM phase at the beginning of the weapon trials? I thought I read somewhere you could get a 99 Walk of Echoes weapon and you just have to farm more WoE coins to get the weaponskill.

[Foldypaws]

yeah, there are -1 weapons from the moogle box with another trial line

[Priran]

I think it's 35/100/100 as opposed to 20/35/35 if you do the NM trials? I hope you're planning on buying the coins because there is absolutely no way in hell that skipping the NMs saves you time if you farm WoE yourself.

[Shadowmeld]

Yes, I was planning on buying the coins. I hate NM camping with a passion, so if there is a way to avoid it it is worth the higher cost to just do the WoE part.

[NynJa]

It'll take you longer to farm your 30/100/100 in WoE than it will take to hunt the NM's.

The only redeeming factor of doing WoE is your chance to make some gil (windbuffets etc)

[Darkmagi]

It will take you less time to do dynamis,salvage,delve,randomgilgenerator,etc. than camping the NMs*

[blasphemy]

It will take you less time to do dynamis,salvage,delve,randomgilgenerator,etc. than camping the NMs*

so untrue. i camped them all in 24 hours for one trial before.

[JSHidaka]

so untrue. i camped them all in 24 hours for one trial before.

Salvage 130 alex~ 1.3m 1h
Dynamis 350sh currency 6k avg. 2.1m 2h
3.4m in 3hr

4-5m to unlock the ws...

[dasva]

so untrue. i camped them all in 24 hours for one trial before.

So untrue I once spent 18 hours camping before a single NM popped, and true the next one popped in 16 minutes but the 3rd took another 12 hours... so yeah a single trial took me over 24 hours of camping forget the rest of the trials to get to that point

[Darkmagi]

so untrue. i camped them all in 24 hours for one trial before.

Yeah, let's spend 24 hours of monotonous camping instead of taking a small portion of our day to make gil instead. Great idea

[Fwahm]

So untrue I once spent 18 hours camping before a single NM popped, and true the next one popped in 16 minutes but the 3rd took another 12 hours... so yeah a single trial took me over 24 hours of camping forget the rest of the trials to get to that point

I assume that was before the repop nerf, though? I've camped for 20 hours for a single NM before the nerf, but after, the Empyrean NMs consistently pop within 1-2 hours.

[detlef]

I assume that was before the repop nerf, though? I've camped for 20 hours for a single NM before the nerf, but after, the Empyrean NMs consistently pop within 1-2 hours.

I think it depends on the NM. I'm not sure but I think [S] NMs didn't have their respawn adjusted. Only camped 1-2 of them but their respawns were significantly worse.

[NynJa]

I assume that was before the repop nerf, though? I've camped for 20 hours for a single NM before the nerf, but after, the Empyrean NMs consistently pop within 1-2 hours.

not all NM's had their repops adjusted.

[dasva]

I assume that was before the repop nerf, though? I've camped for 20 hours for a single NM before the nerf, but after, the Empyrean NMs consistently pop within 1-2 hours.

Don't think they did them? iirc some like Black Triple Stars or Bugbear Strongman can still be retarded

[kenshyn]

Login pts from my mules for the win....

[Julian]

I think they only adjusted the first tier of the nms, aka the first 3 trials.

I did a woe bow post update, it was the biggest waste of time. Especially more so because I thought all the nms would be on insta repop mode, so I spent 2 hours killing placeholders between pops for nothing.

You are much better off just buying it.

[Francisco]

Haven't touched XI in forever... what's needed to unlock the weapon skills?

I have 90 Verethragna and the level 90 WoE weapon (which I got when I though Chloris farming would be unfeasible).

[dasva]

90 empyrean or 99 WoE weapon