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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Will Oil/sand be in CT as soon as 2.3 releases? or like 2.35 or something
    A bit late on this, but the best response we have is from the latest official live letter translation. Make of it what you like.
    A: As I mentioned during the previous Letter from the Producer LIVE, they will not all be dropping at the same time. We'll add them gradually as we progress through patches. We're planning to have unidentified Allagan tomestones drop first, and the drop rate will be about 30%. We'll be making adjustments based on the clear rate of the Second Coil of Bahamut and everyone's average item level.
    I couldn't give two shits about the tomes. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    It strains credibility to think he was talking about level 50 gear.

    Because we'd need him to tell us not to throw away all of the equipment we're currently using.
    Well, yes, he'd be telling you that your new melee DPS job uses the same gear as your old one, so (even if you plan on ditching, say, DRG) you would still use the same gear.

    In any case, he later said that they haven't even decided yet which stats it will use, so it's all up in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    That'll be the same day they finally start making fights that don't get harder and/or become impossible if you push phases at the wrong time (Dear Square Enix, this should not be a thing) in a game where phases are dictated by boss HP% and HP% is not available without a 3rd party tool.
    I'll second this. We're getting sick of T6 and T7 throwing out inconsistencies due to our DPS pushing things too quickly. Defeating things more quickly should be an incentive of gear progression. If you want my group to struggle more as it gears up, make separate difficulties. I assume brutal mode will cover some of this, so use Brutal to throw out the phase bullshit on regular fights.

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    The mined traits list shows them using DEX.

    My money's on them realizing that's stupid and makes no sense, changing it to STR and just adding NIN to all current MNK/striking gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    A bit late on this, but the best response we have is from the latest official live letter translation. Make of it what you like.

    I couldn't give two shits about the tomes. Sigh.
    I need so many sands though D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    The mined traits list shows them using DEX.

    My money's on them realizing that's stupid and makes no sense, changing it to STR and just adding NIN to all current MNK/striking gear.
    The traits don't necessarily tell you anything for a job. SCH doesn't use INT, but has INT traits.

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    Stupid question, but I wonder if they're going to cap the amount of Sold tomes we can acquire through Frontlines in a given week?

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    You mean separate from the normal sold cap?

    I don't see why they would; AFAIK, there's no precedent for a cap on the method you used to get philo/myth/sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    The traits don't necessarily tell you anything for a job. SCH doesn't use INT, but has INT traits.
    SCH's base class is a magical DPS.

    NIN and ROG are melee DPS, in what way would DEX benefit them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    You mean separate from the normal sold cap?

    I don't see why they would; AFAIK, there's no precedent for a cap on the method you used to get philo/myth/sold.
    Not separate, but something about SE just leaves a funny feeling on my neck that they'd either reward you with some paltry number (5, for example), per queue, or cap how much soldiery you can attain from it. I suppose now that Sold's been out for awhile they'd be a bit more lax, but I wonder about that if Frontlines had come out back in 2.2.

    Just seems like its potentially an easy (albeit presumably plodding) way to acquire soldiery. Kinda how like CM runs were back in 2.0. with their respected tome.

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    Anyone getting their Novus maps every day already maxes Sol without even meaning to. I'm not sure why anyone would care either way.

    An instance that is locked to being 30 minutes, no more, no less, doesn't seem "easy" to get tomes unless you're just trying to cheese it by entering and not doing anything of use.

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    I've been capping every week and I've still yet to buy everything I want for even one class. It probably hasn't helped that I have spent some on a dps accessory for my tank and I picked up a Book of Spades. But is that really different from many others? Those weapons are the real setback and could have easily been connected to a weekly similar to Primal Focus to get those tokens. That shit puts you back three weeks ;x

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    Complaining about solds being scarce because you need them for tokens for your tomestone weapon is a world first problem*.

    *mmo equivalent of a "first world problem"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Complaining about solds being scarce because you need them for tokens for your tomestone weapon is a world first problem*.

    *mmo equivalent of a "first world problem"
    Fuck that Book of Spades set me back so much on gearing my BLM/SMN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn View Post
    I've been capping every week and I've still yet to buy everything I want for even one class. It probably hasn't helped that I have spent some on a dps accessory for my tank and I picked up a Book of Spades. But is that really different from many others? Those weapons are the real setback and could have easily been connected to a weekly similar to Primal Focus to get those tokens. That shit puts you back three weeks ;x
    The problem is some of the classes require far more Soldiery gear for BiS then others. This is a failure on SE's part to itemize gear properly.

    Best example:

    SCH
    Daystar Circlet
    Daystar Robe
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    Daystar Belt
    Daystar Breeches
    Daystar Sollerets
    Daystar Ring

    DRG:
    Astrum Mail
    Astrum Armguards
    Astrum Ring

    7 vs 3? wut....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonystar View Post
    The problem is some of the classes require far more Soldiery gear for BiS then others. This is a failure on SE's part to itemize gear properly.

    Best example:

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    Daystar Circlet
    Daystar Robe
    Daystar Gloves
    Daystar Belt
    Daystar Breeches
    Daystar Sollerets
    Daystar Ring

    DRG:
    Astrum Mail
    Astrum Armguards
    Astrum Ring

    7 vs 3? wut....
    This is assuming you don't buy non-BiS gear while waiting on Coil to put out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonystar View Post
    The problem is some of the classes require far more Soldiery gear for BiS then others. This is a failure on SE's part to itemize gear properly.

    Best example:

    SCH
    Daystar Circlet
    Daystar Robe
    Daystar Gloves
    Daystar Belt
    Daystar Breeches
    Daystar Sollerets
    Daystar Ring

    DRG:
    Astrum Mail
    Astrum Armguards
    Astrum Ring

    7 vs 3? wut....
    Sch you can get HA legs if your group can do T9 they are about the same as Daystar legs

    gloves can also use HA without too mcuh hassle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    This is assuming you don't buy non-BiS gear while waiting on Coil to put out.
    Of course, but this time through coil, for my group, it seems like gear has dropped more evenly. Maybe it's just luck or the devs actually distributed gear evenly. Last coil it seemed like they gave accessories a much higher drop rate. Anyone clearing T7-T8ish right now shouldn't waste Soldiery outside of weapons.

    But with that example in particular, it's stupidly broken how uneven BiS is Solidery wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Sch you can get HA legs if your group can do T9 they are about the same as Daystar legs

    gloves can also use HA without too mcuh hassle
    Pants are arguable, but I'm talking pure BiS in relation to the hands. So 6 if you get T9 pants. That's still double >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    This is assuming you don't buy non-BiS gear while waiting on Coil to put out.

    ^ This.

    Also there has been plenty of time to gear a single job.

    I have Conq. = 1300
    Noct body - 825
    Noct legs - 825
    Noct Head - 495
    Noct Hands -495
    Noct Ring - 375
    Gloam Ring - 375
    Gloam Ear - 375
    Gloam Wrist - 375

    and am sitting on 410 for whatever else.

    That's 5850 Sol tomes since release.

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