NA/EU LCS Pro League discussion

[BadKarma]

I wonder if he'll go to CLG or just take time off.

Team environment seemingly went to shit when incarnation showed up.


Also Meteos is legit trending on twitter

[Zetanio]

Team environment seemingly went to shit when incarnation showed up.


Also Meteos is legit trending on twitter

Yeah, just noticed it on my twitter bar. Jesus. Hai really held shit together apparently.

[Zetanio]

via Sneaky on Twitch. Their synergy was gone after Hai left and Meteos bailed.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Wow. That's... kind of big news.

I'll put Meteos in the chump category. Bailing on a team mid season is seriously bogus... deal with season-long adversity, dude, or you don't belong in professional-anything.

[Zetanio]

Wow. That's... kind of big news.

I'll put Meteos in the chump category. Bailing on a team mid season is seriously bogus... deal with season-long adversity, dude, or you don't belong in professional-anything.

I mean, he had a very optimal team situation until Hai. They've been on a giant losing streak since. I'm not excusing him but he saw the writing on the wall when they hired Incarnati0n.

[Gryffes]

Bailing mid season is unprofessional as hell.
Who in their right mind would pick him up , and surely he'd face a competitive ruling from riot.
Although I'm sure CLG would still try and sign him.

[Zetanio]

Although I'm sure CLG would still try and sign him.

I think he's gone but that's the only team I see having enough cash to drag him in.

[D44kpunk]

CLG or TSM should both be trying to get meteos in my opinion, getting meteos would also open up a spot for an international ADC or top laner for TSM.

if hai can perform medicore in the jungle it will be a great move overall for c9 honestly, he can shot call again and is in a less mechanical demanding role

[BadKarma]

I won't be around to see the games tomorrow because murica but I'm curious to see how hai does

[BadKarma]

Thinking about c9 without Meteos I like thinking of tsm without dyrus or fnc without xpeke


He was arguably the most dominant player that NA had ever seen, and I really hope he isn't retiring

[D44kpunk]

jungle is an extremely low impact role right now in professional, FNC without peke was an amazing upgrade. febiven is a boss

[Zetanio]

jungle is an extremely low impact role right now in professional

Wait what.

[Dantrag]

C9... lol.. on the plus side... thanks for a shit ton of points

[chazzyphizzle]

balls was trying to 5v5 with triforce/blade fizz...why would you try to teamfight like that lol

[Gryffes]

The clg end of season collapse is real.

[BadKarma]

jungle is an extremely low impact role right now in professional, FNC without peke was an amazing upgrade. febiven is a boss

Much ignorance.

also c9 looked...better?

[Marootsoobutsu]

Much ignorance.

If you have a choice between a mostly-mediocre team, but ONE player can be world class...

are you honestly telling me that Jungle wouldn't be one of your bottom two choices? In professional leagues, they can more accurately track where a jungler is, even without sight. They know where they'll be. They ward better. All of the tools that make jungle hugely influential in the non-professional scene are absent there. It's not that jungler's /can't/ be impactful-- but it's substantially more difficult and less consistently so than, say, a great midlaner or even a great top or support. Heck, a bunch of times, junglers are just roaming around with the top lane in professional.

Look at it this way: Meteos is still regarded as one of the premier jungler's in NA, and he just flat out cannot elevate C9 on his own. Bjerg, even when shotcalling wasn't his thing, instantly upgraded TSM. Huni instantly upgraded Fnatic. Hai fills in for Meteos, and his shot calling alone was able to make them look at least far more respectable than they have looked since week 1 vs. TSM. It just has a different place and different role. When Cinderhulk hadn't been debuffed and was King Item On The Hill, when it was still a tank meta, it was different, but the meta's shifted. Jungle's just not anywhere near the impact it used to be. Which is why, if you aren't going Graggy or Rek'Sai, who can still be very relevant, no one really prioritizes jungle in pick/ban.

[Gryffes]

All the NA games tonight are interesting.

NME vs TDK - if TDK win I expect them to be out of last place by the end of the split and NME/C9/T8 to be there instead.
CLG vs TIP - how real is the CLG slump, can TIP make headway from being midfield.
TSM vs GV - Can GV beat TSM and stake a claim to being #1? Ban ezreal plos.
Dig vs TL - Can dig beat TL and solidify their top 3 standing, can TL do the same.
T8 vs C9 - Real relegation battle here, whoever loses is at real risk.

[chazzyphizzle]

welp, so much for the tdk dream

[Gryffes]

LCS Big Throws.
Giving up Ez, failing to end early. :/