.DAT Mining: 6/17/2014 Update - Findings and Discussion

[geno3302]

Why does the HQ give less ACC to pet than the NQ?

[dasva]

Given all the other pre food stats stayed the same between the 2 tests I'm guessing he just typod the acc


Does anyone know what they meant by pets gaining tp wrong that they put twice in the update notes? Nothing stands out too much but then I'm not sure what they had before

[CubsWoo]

Quick and dirty Thirst for the Eons guide:

- Get some Ulbucoconut Milk
- Talk to Roskin, Eastern Adoulin and trade him the milk
- Go to the Scout's Coalition and click both ???s for two key items, then go to Greebly (G-6) and buy what he's selling for 2000 bayld
- Go into the library and read all the books, two of them (I think?) will give you key items
- Go to Western Adoulin and speak to Louiareaux (F-8) for a KI then click the Fontis Xanira for a cutscene and another KI
- Speak to Wagellion in Eastern Adoulin (F-9) for info
- Head to Foret, ride the water all the way upstream until you find a ???, click it
- Go to Palomel in Eastern Adoulin (G-9)
- Talk to Nhili Uvolep (I-7) in Eastern Adoulin
- Return to Palomel
- Go to Rala Waterways from Western Adoulin and speak to everyone in the garden (I forget who), one will give you a key item, then go to the SE section of Rala and find a ??? on a box that gives you two key items
- Get some pickaxes and go to Woh Gates, head to the western part down the dropoffs into the snaky rooms and you'll find a ??? in the center area, use pickaxes to mine up a key item
- Return to Palomel
- Go to Polished Pebble in Western Adoulin (J-10) and give him your key item
- Return to Palomel
- Return to Roskin and give him all your key items, if I/you missed anything he'll tell you the zone(s) you need to find stuff in, just click people until you find it all, that's what I did
- Some of it is important, some of it isn't, just like the last quest, figure it out or don't, you still complete the quest either way, 2000xp/1000 bayld
- The next day you can probably go back to him for like 1000 bayld or 2 bayld or whatever who cares this was long and not that fun

Edit: Finishing all the new quests for this patch does not give you any new key items from the library but you do get some titles

[quixorbl]

Quick and dirty Thirst for the Eons guide:

...
- Go into the library and read all the books, two of them (I think?) will give you key items
...

You don't really have to read all the books in the library. Clicking on "Geography" will get you a KI the first time (though you can click again to read the books) and clicking on "History" will get you the other KI.

[Switchorz]

He gave me 2 bayld after the next game day. That was a lot of running around when I did it earlier >.<.

[dasva]

So some more tp values for lower stuff.

DWing 2 150 delay daggers with 40% dw so effective delay of 90 per hand was 4.5 tp per hit was 3.2 before.

Tried a 183 and 180 weapons with 62% dw so effective delay of 69 delay per hand. Came out with 4.1 tp/hit was 4.0 before.

180 delay used to be the 5tp anchor point now it's 6.1

Seems like the increases compared to before aren't so clear cut as higher delay makes for bigger increases


Side note I just noticed position is now displayed next to the clock ig... nice

[ccl]

Yeah a lot of the UI stuff change is awesome, if only they had this much quality update and same update rate right after abyssea, we'd prolly be a lot more still playing this

[Sechs]

Think I like Shiromochi more than Akamochi for SMN at least.
But where is my Pet: Macc food now?!?!

The statuses are identical to the SCH spells

The icon si different though. You sure they don't stack and that they share the same ID? I also think Animus Augeo/Minuo had different lasting time.
They do not break the enmity caps if I recall. Wonder if it's the same for Crusade and the Ninja spells

So a little info on crusade. Cost 18 mp takes. Has a rather decent cast time ~6 seconds. But lasts 5 minutes with only a 10 sec recast.... Gives enmity boost effect and the buff says enmity generation is increased so sounds like just some kind of +enmity but will wait for testing till can tell for certain.... which might be awhile with the mule I use for such things banned lol

If it's just +static enmity it seems so useless for RUN, and partially for PLD too. Guess it could have an use on NIN...
But why did they go that way? I'm sure they're not dumb, they must be aware how with the currently ongoing cap a normal +/- enmity buff wouldn't change much for these jobs.
I refuse to believe it's just that, there must be something else

[fantasticdan]

Any info on the geomancy+ stuff besides refresh?

[dasva]

I'm sure they're not dumb,

These are the guys that introduced code in that makes the game divide by zero and still haven't figured out how to fix it in what 3 months now? Same guys that actually think that stymie would not only be good but make people want to use rdm lol. I'm pretty sure they are that dumb

[Sechs]

Dasva stop depressing me and making me see the glass half empty ><
You're the prophet, the harbinger, the god of enmity testing.
Go test sum Crusade!

[dasva]

Dasva stop depressing me and making me see the glass half empty ><
You're the prophet, the harbinger, the god of enmity testing.
Go test sum Crusade!

I would but the mule I use to test values is still banned lol. Though supposedly they are looking back into it

[Damane]

I would but the mule I use to test values is still banned lol. Though supposedly they are looking back into it

nice to hear!

[pancakesandsex]

Made request to change items names and move stack quantity back to the right. New way is rough on the eyes, completely covers icon. Either need to change the names of items that would overflow, or expand the affected windows.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post512137

Please hit like on my post

[dasva]

So I'm not the only one who thought it's dumb. I've gotten so used to searching by icon to an extent that now it's like wtf is that. Plus why the hell do ra/ex items have a number on them!?! Do they think I'm suddenly going to have a stack of exaliburs now to throw at the enemy like I'm Edge from ff4?

[ikariiiii]

Plus why the hell do ra/ex items have a number on them!?!

that signifies that its stored in your wardrobe, not that its rare/ex

[Ophannus]

+Enmity is decent, i mean the cap is +100 on gear and most PLDs can't really hit that too easily without Burtgang right? Maybe it makes it easier to hit the cap?

[dasva]

+Enmity is decent, i mean the cap is +100 on gear and most PLDs can't really hit that too easily without Burtgang right? Maybe it makes it easier to hit the cap?

The thing is though it's not all that useful outside of recovery from reset... until that sam does a 18k ws and immediately recaps hate themselves

[Prothescar]

Reposting here since I've seen so many different things about it:


Dimidation is Light/Fragmentation. Makes light with Fudo and Kasha. Therefor, Light/Flame/Breeze/Thunder all work

[Malithar]

Has anyone else gotten an Aged Box (Bayld)? Got one after 5 WKRs on update night, but no one else I know or have asked has gotten one, and I haven't seen another in the 6-7 other WKRs I've done since. Was hoping to get a better idea of it's range. Mine had 5 HPBs.