Elite Hunt Marks

[Arthars]

good lord peeps still brooding over early pulls etc etc?

the logic is simple, whoever spots it can claim if he think he can win it

anyone else who is not the "founder" is default "being late"

if your not first, your last, deal with it...... dont cry in shouts etc. humans are disgusting!

havent seen any case of "resetting" from everyday hunts on my server......cant believe this also comes into the picture now on NA servers lol

[Detzu]

Where is the grief if that said player still gains his 50 seals and 200 myth after a reset?
SE should put a hunt website on lodestone or linked to it so they could see where the true grief is.

[Sephiroth]

People don't like early pullers for good reason - they're making you and dozens of others spend 2-3 times as long to get your seals and that's time you could be spending elsewhere. Crying about it in shout however, now that is bad. That selfishness harms yourself too, because those people hunting for 2-3 times as long are people who are competing for hunts for 2-3 times as long rather than being done with it quicker. I certainly plan to stop as soon as my main is i110.

[Detzu]

good lord peeps still brooding over early pulls etc etc?

the logic is simple, whoever spots it can claim if he think he can win it

anyone else who is not the "founder" is default "being late"

if your not first, your last, deal with it...... dont cry in shouts etc. humans are disgusting!

havent seen any case of "resetting" from everyday hunts on my server......cant believe this also comes into the picture now on NA servers lol

Of course, but when people are using radars it's hard to not be late. If on top of it they troll websites to give false information you understand that it can be infuriating.

[Lokus]

Where is the grief if that said player still gains his 50 seals and 200 myth after a reset?
SE should put a hunt website on lodestone or linked to it so they could see where the true grief is.

Usually what happens after a reset with me is that I get no credit or half credit cause the mark disappears out of existence so my party can't even retag it before it's nearly dead.

[blowfin]

Usually what happens after a reset with me is that I get no credit or half credit cause the mark disappears out of existence so my party can't even retag it before it's nearly dead.

Yep, by waiting too long (including resetting) you bone the people who were in the zone when the mob was found in favor of people teleporting in from other zones. GG.

[Petitssk]

Usually what happens after a reset with me is that I get no credit or half credit cause the mark disappears out of existence so my party can't even retag it before it's nearly dead.

This happens, and it's not even that rare. If I find something, I wait one to two minutes, depending on how many people there are. If mobs start disappearing and someone resets it or I die in the fight due to the lag, I get zero points after a reset, which is not desirable.

I play on a laptop that takes more than seventy seconds to load Revenant's Toll and I still get plenty of points. If someone feels they're entitled to every single NM that spawns and thinks that a reset is the only available option, then they need to consider that there's another solution - it's called not being slow. If someone's slower than me, they're either playing on a 20th century system or their party/information flow is downright terrible, both of which are their fault. Resetting mobs turns those problems into mine, which is why I report resetters, regardless of how the point distribution turns out - if I can even tell who reset the mob, that is.

[shepardG]

[TheDirtyHobo]

Usually what happens after a reset with me is that I get no credit or half credit cause the mark disappears out of existence so my party can't even retag it before it's nearly dead.

That usually happens to me even without a reset. Or at least it has been the past couple days; it feels like it's been even more crowded than normal. 7 S ranks spawned while I was online today, only got 40 points from them, total. 4 while I was in a single dungeon, 3 that I got 5, 30, 5 credit for but never actually saw. Had to just plop down a shadowflare where the densest area of people was and spam miasma2 and blizzard2.

Side note since I've been trying to tweak settings to fix it: Is setting System > Other > Character and Object Quantity to maximum or minimum better for loading monsters? I.E. Do monsters count as characters and/or objects and you want to load more of them to make it more likely for the monster, or are they separate and the fewer of them you load, the more likely you are to load the monster?

[Petitssk]

That usually happens to me even without a reset. Or at least it has been the past couple days; it feels like it's been even more crowded than normal. 7 S ranks spawned while I was online today, only got 40 points from them, total. 4 while I was in a single dungeon, 3 that I got 5, 30, 5 credit for but never actually saw. Had to just plop down a shadowflare where the densest area of people was and spam miasma2 and blizzard2.

Side note since I've been trying to tweak settings to fix it: Is setting System > Other > Character and Object Quantity to maximum or minimum better for loading monsters? I.E. Do monsters count as characters and/or objects and you want to load more of them to make it more likely for the monster, or are they separate and the fewer of them you load, the more likely you are to load the monster?

I'd say it's the latter or a mix of both, as I've had less issues with monsters being displayed after reducing it to the minimum, though I cannot guarantee it. Nonetheless, I'd use it if only to lessen the load on your computer so you can actually get out of one-shot moves.

[Hiroishime]

I rarely ever miss any A mobs as long as we know their death times, we always have everyone covering all open windows and mostly ignore Bs unless they are at convinient area.

[Wulfgang]

good lord peeps still brooding over early pulls etc etc?

the logic is simple, whoever spots it can claim if he think he can win it

anyone else who is not the "founder" is default "being late"

if your not first, your last, deal with it...... dont cry in shouts etc. humans are disgusting!

havent seen any case of "resetting" from everyday hunts on my server......cant believe this also comes into the picture now on NA servers lol

It has actually gotten worse to me. I don't understand it; I just /shrug and move on.

[Xerlic]

Oh hey, more talk about early pulling vs. waiting.

Did not know you could get a log with less than full credit. 2 logs in ~8 A kills; crazy luck after a long drought.

Nice. I'm 1/83 on these things. Fuck off, bro.

[Kaslo]

Where is the grief if that said player still gains his 50 seals and 200 myth after a reset?
SE should put a hunt website on lodestone or linked to it so they could see where the true grief is.

I have lost credit due to a reset because so many people showed up it was like we were fighting an S rank and I couldn't reload it.

[shidobu]

if your not first, your last, deal with it...... dont cry in shouts etc. humans are disgusting!

didnt see ShepG's post im a terrible person

[Arthars]

lol wtf XD

so now NA servers got to deal with:
1. Early pull peeps get yelled at
2. Resets and people who found them first dont get credit in the end
3. Shout your ass off if you didnt get a hit in

seriously....... yoshi need to change the NA version of "The Hunt" to "The Grief"

the old stereotype Hunt LSs are useless in general. at least more than 60% of peeps arent really hunting but waiting solo or doing something else

You are better off making a new LS everytime u start a Hunt PT, and invite everyone who is hunting at the moment. people who leave grp should also leave LS
there are at times, too many "leeches" being solo or bring a shit tonne of peeps along from their other LS/FC etc
and then, of course, shout stupidly because they didnt get full credits

thats what we practising now on JP server. the temp hunt shout LS is always 70-80 peeps in party hunting, than old school hunt LSs which contain 20% hunters and 80% offlines/DFing/PFing

alot more efficient

this way, most of hunters are there knowing pos/time and if your late while most peeps are there, its pretty safe to say your dreaming or afking and you dont deserve your credits

if you are saying you should wait for these leeches, then fuck off now

also, best way to get credits in a PT, yet allowing others more time(well just a little but still...) to get credits is to make a PT of 3 WHM and 5 warrior/pld with defiance/shield oath up

WHM spam medica II and medica, and war/pld dont use attack buffs and just use enmity moves

you will be surprised how fast you can cap credits. even a PT of 2 whm 2 tanks are getting cap for S mobs doing this now

our mobs last faster too for others to come

[faq]

Since day 1 my LS has cycled offlines, afk's and in duties in preference of ANYBODY that wants to actively hunt - people now just take it upon themselves and leave the LS when they are done hunting.

The only reason we started it in this fashion was because we couldn't get into any of the other 2 LSs that were created for hunts because they were full of offlines.

We never kicked anybody actively hunting for any reason, we simply told people nicely, in tells, how to optimize credit for all involved when they pulled early or did something stupid. We also put a heavy emphasis on not bitching about early pulls and never talking in shout or complaining in shout as it makes the whole look bad.

It was a ridiculous chore at the beginning but with persistence and by consistently spreading the word.. our server is now civil 99% of the time when it comes to hunts.

The real key is building an active, trustworthy leader base (fluctuates around 10-12 of the most active hunters) to manage invites/roster purges at all hours.

[Arthars]

yea thats nice

hunt is casual content

and thats how it should be managed. kick people who are not hunting(or leave yourself when ur done), and inviting people who are hunting

no hard feelings

also, we just give LS leadership to leader of hunt PTs who are keen to hunt as a whole than just 1 PT

the leader then add people in his PT to LS

this pug way is way more efficient than 1 hunting LS full of AFKs/offlines

you are getting information from every active hunters at that point of time, than just 1 group/fc

[Almalexia]

Now that you mention it, is it confirmed that mark logs are possible on Rank Bs and without full parties? I still seem to hear a lot of superstition regarding when and how mark logs are possible.

No one can provide screenshot evidence of a B drop. All anecdotal, and never when I'm around.

Maybe it's my fault.

[Arthars]

B wont drop logs, period. Whoever says it does is drunk

A and S drops them if you can get a "Silver" Rating, whether "silver" vs "Gold" having different drop %, we'll never know

im only on 457 As and 51 Ss and got 29 logs

friend is 1/87 As tho, so wouldnt surprise me if its atma drop rate