Israel vs. Gaza round 99

[Mrbeansman]

Why even deny it when world leaders have zero intention of holding you accountable?

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[Meresgi]

If those videos are real I would believe the first one. You wouldn't get that, "whoosh, bang" from missile debris that were shot down.

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I mean missile debris isn't taking out a hospital, unless Hamas had a super secret weapon they decided to use and Israel was like "PARRY!".

Why even deny it when world leaders have zero intention of holding you accountable?

They'll deny for a day/week, then admit it and then be like "So what? Baby murderers!" and the west will froth and agree

[Outlaw]

News is drinking the Kool-aid. They are running with the story: "IDF has proof it was a Hamas missile"

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[Krandor]

If Israel is telling the truth and they didn't blow up that hospital how is that drinking the Kool aid?

[Andalusian girls]

because they probably aren't telling the truth and muddying the waters enough for plausible deniability while committing war crimes is kind of a hallmark of their Palestinian policy

but, as our main man Aeschylus once said truth is the first casualty, much like baby beheadings that weren't the only rational path is to wait for more evidence. logic strongly suggests Israel, but logical progressions with imperfect inputs is frequently wrong, and the Palestinian authorities lie just as often when it serves their purposes.

[Andalusian girls]

tho, also, how much does it truly matter

crimes deserve attribution, even retribution, but Israel's bombing campaign has killed 3000 people, the vast majority civilians, it will kill thousands more, and the WHO said Israel has struck Palestinian healthcare facilities 115 times. it would be the worst of their crimes, but is merely one among hundreds, thousands. alternatively if they are innocent of it they are assuredly guilty of exponentially worse.

[Gredival]

The Palestinian people are victims and that makes most liberal leaning people point the finger at Israel when there's blame to go around.

AG is right that Hamas is not any morally cleaner. They only have less blood on their hands because they are less capable of executing atrocities. We shouldn't dismiss the chance that it's Hamas' fault

[Tymon]

There are a lot of pretty wild scenes unfolding right now and overall tonight. Multiple US embassies being raided by huge swaths of protesters. Not just US btw. France, Israeli, etc. Primarily in Jordan and Lebanon.

[Tymon]

The Palestinian people are victims and that makes most liberal leaning people point the finger at Israel when there's blame to go around.

AG is right that Hamas is not any morally cleaner. They only have less blood on their hands because they are less capable of executing atrocities. We shouldn't dismiss the chance that it's Hamas' fault

Interestingly the IDF is not actually blaming Hamas for this. They are claiming that it's the PIJ, a totally different organization in the region. They are affiliated with Hezbollah.

This comes around the same time that the US announces it will intervene if Hezbollah escalates the situation. Take this all as you will. It paints a picture. At least potentially.

[kuronosan]

The only picture it paints is one of a country willing to lie to commit atrocities that result in retaliations proving their lies to be justified.

[Krandor]

Well according to Joe Biden (not sure how trustworthy that source is, probably has an Israel bias), US Intel suggests Israel did not blow up that hospital.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...5cf4ab354354ce

Maybe everyone shouldn't take Hamas at their word.

[kuronosan]

I don't, but also it's the same Intel that claimed there were WMDs so I really don't put much stock in Intel either way. I'm more of an AMD guy.

[Qalbert]

also as recently as this week he was parroting the unvetted beheading babies line so grain of salt for sure

[Rhyis.]

in war ultimately everyone is to blame

[Xno Kappa]

Hamas’ entire MO has always been to use civilians and civilian refuge locations as shields to generate outrage.

But sure, something something WMDs weren’t real.

[Tymon]

Um excuse me Brandon but since Al Jazeera has already reported that this was, in fact, da joos, I'm going to have to flag your post for misinformation.

[Tymon]

It's fine that a potential peace conference was cancelled, mass riots occurred across the region, a Berlin synagogue was firebombed, multiple French airports were evacuated, the German chancellor was at risk of rocket fire, and multiple embassies were raided.

Damn Zionists!

[Spicyryan]

It's fine that a potential peace conference was cancelled, mass riots occurred across the region, a Berlin synagogue was firebombed, multiple French airports were evacuated, the German chancellor was at risk of rocket fire, and multiple embassies were raided.

Damn Zionists!

It is called blowback. It's not surprising that when emotions hit a fever pitch "on both sides".
Police, especially in France and Germany it seems, are raising batons more towards support protests from non-white communities for Palestine.

[Xno Kappa]

https://twitter.com/ap/status/171465...4cFnT_86rk5g5Q

[Xno Kappa]

https://twitter.com/ap/status/171467...4cFnT_86rk5g5Q