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  1. #11281
    It's all dicks and airplanes
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    ehh at some point every site has had the retaliate debacle. wouldn't worry about it!

  2. #11282
    I would prefer not to.
    Moms Spaghetti
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    took down/mastered plague horror. cast reflect on him so he couldn't buff himself, reflected cloud to bounce spells off him, haste RW. tellah was my whm with reflect and diaga, ran with no heals and s/ld a couple times to get to him but he only meleed once because he kept trying to buff himself. still had 22 on the doom timer.

    can't avoid ogopogo or lunasuars anymore lol :/

  3. #11283
    Ridill
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    I just took Dispel to PH. Think he only attacked me once on Elite. Overall, its AI seems to prioritize buffs, so you really only need one person focusing on keeping him stripped. Everyone else can go balls out.

  4. #11284
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    Moms Spaghetti
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    eh, figured if I brought dispel I would have to cast it every turn, or I could cast reflect on him once (and once on cloud to bounce spells) and the rest of the fight my whm could bounce diaga for a little more damage output.

    but whatever works obv

  5. #11285
    I'll change yer fuckin rate you derivative piece of shit
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    I used Reflect (on P Cecil) and it was a joke.

    Just beat Seymour Flux, got Total Annihilated one hit before the win, it only killed one character (my healer, should've used Yuna), didn't master. Should've S/Led, stupid.

    Trash is such a pain on the way, going to suck getting back there...

  6. #11286
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    question for people who did lunasaurs: did you bring esuna or medica with you, or did you just pray for rng odds on bad breath? (I'm assuming no to the heals but just checking)

  7. #11287
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron View Post
    question for people who did lunasaurs: did you bring esuna or medica with you, or did you just pray for rng odds on bad breath? (I'm assuming no to the heals but just checking)
    I didn't bring any heals but I did have to S/L 4 or 5 times because they loved starting off with bad breath. I still ended up taking a bad breath when I won but I got lucky with no blind on my melees and my mitigations were still up..

  8. #11288
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    I prayed to rngesus for no bad breath. Only had to s/l once

  9. #11289
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    What are the odds of Deathgaze on airship?

  10. #11290
    I'll change yer fuckin rate you derivative piece of shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerin View Post
    I prayed to rngesus for no bad breath. Only had to s/l once
    Same

  11. #11291
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    Funnily enough, Lunarsaurs never used Bad Breath for me on classic. So, color me surprised when they spammed the fuck out of it in elite. Realistically, ST status cures just aren't enough in this situation because while blind is pretty fatal for melees, you can bet your healer will get silenced when you need it.

  12. #11292
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    Random QoL complaint of the day: Having the hard daily dungeons at the bottom of the list sucks. The harder dungeons should be at the top of the list because scrolling is annoying. #firstworldproblems

  13. #11293
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    IT EXIST.

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Relm Stats
    Black Magic 3, White Magic 5, Summon 4
    Equip: Dagger, Rod, Staff, Whip; Hat, Robe, Bracelet
    Level 65 Stats: 3451 HP, 79 ATK, 67 DEF, 132 MAG, 130 RES, 148 MND, 127 SPD
    Default SB "Control" - high chance of inflicting Confuse to a target
    RM "Granddaughter's Compassion" - small MND up when wielding rods

  15. #11295
    BG Medical's Student of Medicine
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    Good God that MND/MAG.

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    I don'T see what's wrong, she's on Vanille lv

    Edit and the banners

    Set 1
    Chocobo Brush (Relm), SSB "Painting of Lakshmi" - large heal and large regen on party, MND+10 for learning
    One-strike Blade (Shadow), SSB "Shadow Fang" - 8-hit single target attack and blink (avoid 2 physical hits) on self, without any charge time, ATK+10 for learning
    Morning Star (Strago), SB "Sever Soul" - 2-hit non-elemental magic damage on all targets and DEF/RES down and cause Instant Death
    Rune Blade (Celes), SB "Spinning Edge" - 3-hit wind-elemental physical attack
    Drill (Edgar), SB "Drill" - 3-hit physical attack and party DEF up
    Thief Bracelet (common), SB "Smokescreen" - Slow on all enemies
    Depends on the multiplier but Shadow's sounds pretty potent, instant cast is great and adds to Shadow's survivability. Relm's is not very different from other party heals but good to have if you don't have some others.
    Set 2
    Excalibur (Celes), SSB "The Magnificent Sword of Constant Victory" - 5-hit physical attack and absorb white and black magic for a time to refill ability uses, ATK+10 for learning
    Maduin's Horn (Terra), SSB "Magitek Missile" - 10-hit non-elemental magic attack, and MAG+10 for learning
    Cat Ear Hood (Relm), SB "Just Like the Octopus" - 4-hit non-elemental magic attack on all targets and inflict Blind
    Kefka's Cape (Kefka), SB "Infuse Magitek" - party MAG up and Haste
    Wing Edge (Locke), SB "Phoenix's Treasure" - fire-elemental physical attack on all targets and small party heal
    Thief Bracelet
    Good lord Celes's SSB is a mouthful (orig 華麗なる常勝の剣). I wonder how they're going to localize it in Global... and yes, definite Fate vibe there. And I knew Celes wasn't going to let Exdeath get the better of her magic absorbing powers, again it depends on the multiplier but because it's an SSB it should be causing significant single-target damage while mitigating enemy magic, should be great for certain bosses.
    I love that Relm's SB is describing her debut scene where she sketches Ultros... Also another opportunity to get Terra's SSB relic for those who missed it the first time around, it's an extremely solid caster weapon.
    EDIT again
    SB videos

    Relm (SSB) https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp...l28a5GPK1M.mp4
    Shadow (SSB) https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp...IvuxGLGa6E.mp4
    Strago https://ffrk-movie.static.sp.mbga.jp...kDPyOSE6oI.mp4

  17. #11297
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    That's the thing, there's nothing wrong with her stats.

  18. #11298
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
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    So we what have Relm and Mog for FF6 healers?

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    Mog have lower MND, which won't impact cures much. So mob is a 'tankier' healer

    While relm is more of a nuking healing (good MAG for nukes + summons) good MND for Diaga etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron View Post
    took down/mastered plague horror. cast reflect on him so he couldn't buff himself, reflected cloud to bounce spells off him, haste RW. tellah was my whm with reflect and diaga, ran with no heals and s/ld a couple times to get to him but he only meleed once because he kept trying to buff himself. still had 22 on the doom timer.

    can't avoid ogopogo or lunasuars anymore lol :/
    I didn't even bother with reflect/dispel I just went in and straight kicked his ass. I figured with my own haste from boon I could pass the DPS check and I was right. He went down with 35 still on the doom timer.

    Now I only have Ogopogo left. Is the Res goal still roughly 200 for melee and 250 for mages to survive the opening Deluge?

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