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  1. #11581
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    probably need more black orbs
    There is no "probably" in regards to needing black orbs. There is only need, and more need, and more need, and more need...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerin View Post
    There is no "probably" in regards to needing black orbs. There is only need, and more need, and more need, and more need...
    This is another reason that I'm hesitant to make and hone meteor to R2. I can either have that or 300 GBO when orb conversion comes.

    Edit: But then again, I'm the one trying to make an R2 barrage and that's 300 GPO...

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    done with the elite jenovas. life was fine with mitigation up, death even with mitigation up came close to knocking out aerith or vivi if they got hit with red light twice.

    i don't want to fight schizo, I fucking hate that fight :/

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    Lost 3 medals on jenova death but at least mastered

    Looking for a good pt build for ultima weapon classic + elite

    Any tips plz

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    only did classic ultima weapon, his hp values there are pretty low where my party (cloud zack vaan aerith vivi) had him dead within 3 turns. vaan had power and mental breakdown. boon rw, didn't use it on the first fight. classic isn't too bad but I'm not looking forward to elite.

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    Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (Smartphones)

    Since he use more magic I was thinking of magic breakdown +'boon and give power break to someone

    Edit : wow his hp is indeed low in classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hada View Post
    This is another reason that I'm hesitant to make and hone meteor to R2. I can either have that or 300 GBO when orb conversion comes.

    Edit: But then again, I'm the one trying to make an R2 barrage and that's 300 GPO...
    Backwards conversion of 5* orbs to 4* orbs is definitely worth considering since you can max some R4 skills even which will be more useful than a R2/R1 5* skill.

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    After dicking around with Barrage some, and mind you I don't even have native Advance nor do I ever generally run a melee party, I'm leaning on the side of "nothing is more useful than Barrage".

    Shit is just silly.

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    I don't have it yet, either make it or R2 Meteor atm I've been saving them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    Backwards conversion of 5* orbs to 4* orbs is definitely worth considering since you can max some R4 skills even which will be more useful than a R2/R1 5* skill.
    Ever since I pulled a keepsake ribbon I've made the transition to a mostly physical party and I would prefer higher hones on black magic versus AoE clearing of trash mobs. With barrage though, I have the right relics to maximize it's damage and an R2 would just make it even more broken.

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    After dicking around with Barrage some, and mind you I don't even have native Advance nor do I ever generally run a melee party, I'm leaning on the side of "nothing is more useful than Barrage".

    Shit is just silly.
    I absolutely love barrage right now, even at R1. It's gotten to the point where I feel like I need to handicap myself by not bringing Luneth to dungeons. In the last DU I was able to do a minimum of 30k damage per use stacking advance, PP, armor breakdown and full break. That's SSB type numbers from a 5* ability and with the + dailies it's now somewhat farmable for hones.

    I also think that there is a lot more utility for people with good attack buffs since there are more single target boss fights than multitarget.

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    It's crazy how much relic can change stuff

    I personally atm can't live without SG/SSII/LH/Boon

    I don't see myself surviving much by using planet or advance as RW lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hada View Post
    Ever since I pulled a keepsake ribbon I've made the transition to a mostly physical party and I would prefer higher hones on black magic versus AoE clearing of trash mobs. With barrage though, I have the right relics to maximize it's damage and an R2 would just make it even more broken.



    I absolutely love barrage right now, even at R1. It's gotten to the point where I feel like I need to handicap myself by not bringing Luneth to dungeons. In the last DU I was able to do a minimum of 30k damage per use stacking advance, PP, armor breakdown and full break. That's SSB type numbers from a 5* ability and with the + dailies it's now somewhat farmable for hones.

    I also think that there is a lot more utility for people with good attack buffs since there are more single target boss fights than multitarget.
    Yeah, but your situation is very different having a Luneth with Advance. Majority of people will benefit more with the 4* abilities maxed (although this kinda becomes unnecessary when you start becoming able to spam SSBs with Lifesiphon especially since every boss rush I've done since I've started JP ver has only had 2 bosses in it.)

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    Even without advance I was popping 20-24k on the new elite bosses with PP + armor break + full break. Shit is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    Yeah, but your situation is very different having a Luneth with Advance. Majority of people will benefit more with the 4* abilities maxed (although this kinda becomes unnecessary when you start becoming able to spam SSBs with Lifesiphon especially since every boss rush I've done since I've started JP ver has only had 2 bosses in it.)
    I would make the same recommendation that you are for the average player. Outside of full break the utility of the 5* abilities is pretty situational unless you have the right relics. Even right now it's possible to get by without full break.

    I know that my situation is different than most people. Advance is just stupid fucking broken but just like everyone else I love seeing huge damage numbers. I have no clue what DeNA was thinking when they gave it a buff that large.

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    Just beat ultima weapon elite

    Need to manage skills well

    Here's my setup


    Used boon on 2nd and last boss, I had some abilities left but not a lot

    He has an average of 50-75k hp per pop on elite

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    Do they drop ethers or nah

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    Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (Smartphones)

    Can drop ethers like normal mob but not 100%

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    new stamina cap is 143 1/5 right?

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    Correct

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    Was gonna throw mythril at Celes banner for runic, but Zidane banner 2 looks so damn good that I am gonna save up for it lol, love Vivi and would love his double meteor staff.

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