Another Malaysian jet goes down with 295 passengers, at Ukraine/Russia border

[ringthree]

just saw this on twitter
@ABCPolitics
DEVELOPING: White House placed on lockdown; cause not yet known; reporters being told to stay in press area

may be totally unrelated but this seems to be the thread for "shits going down" today
apparently there's a suspicious/unattended package on the north lawn

Its just an unattended package. It is not related.

[Qalbert]

Its just an unattended package. It is not related.

right, obviously, should have changed the post more when I edited that in. the initial tweet didn't say why it was in lockdown though, and like I said, this seems to be the "shits going down" thread, see israel stuff

[tyven]

Its just an unattended package. It is not related.

listen i don't want to put on the tin foil hat here but could it have anything to do with the plane that went missing? could that plane also have been unattended?

[Indalecia]

Fox is reporting that US intel agencies confirming a SAM did it.

Even though fox, from intel agencies....so yeah.

[Cail]

Best defense is a good offense.

Spoiler: show

[Wulfgang]

U.S. intelligence agencies have confirmed it was a surface to air missile. Also here is the transcript from the forces that shot down the plane:

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...pt-356545.html

The second intercepted conversation released by the Security Service of Ukraine was apparently between militants nicknamed “Major” and “Greek” immediately upon inspection of the crash site.

“It’s 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft,” Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. “Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”

Read the full transcript of an intercepted phone call below:

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.

“Major”: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.

“Grek”: Yes, Major.

"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200”. A Civilian.

“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?

“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.

“Greek”: Are many people there?

“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).

“Greek”: What kind of aircraft?

“Major”: I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.

“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?

“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.

“Greek”: Are there documents?

“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.

[Indalecia]

U.S. intelligence agencies have confirmed it was a surface to air missile. Also here is the transcript from the forces that shot down the plane:

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...pt-356545.html

Whelp, that tears it...

[Wulfgang]

Pretty clear they thought it was a military plane then the "Major" guy shows up on the scene and realizes it's a civilian craft. Remarkable lack of shock / remorse though; I was reading through and waiting for the inevitable "those fucking idiots! we are so dead!" when the civilian realization hit. Seems like they were fine with the potential outcome either way.

[Bregor]

MAJOR???

[Xajii]

Zero........

[Correction]

U.S. intelligence agencies have confirmed it was a surface to air missile. Also here is the transcript from the forces that shot down the plane:

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...pt-356545.html

The SBU is not a U.S. intelligence agency.

Are you people even reading the news before posting it?

[ringthree]

Pretty clear they thought it was a military plane then the "Major" guy shows up on the scene and realizes it's a civilian craft. Remarkable lack of shock / remorse though; I was reading through and waiting for the inevitable "those fucking idiots! we are so dead!" when the civilian realization hit. Seems like they were fine with the potential outcome either way.

“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?

“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.

“Greek”: Are there documents?

“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.

That was the oh shit moment. It wasn't remorseless, it was like "hide the evidence".

[ringthree]

The SBU is not a U.S. intelligence agency.

Are you people even reading the news before posting it?

It doesn't seem like it.

[Xajii]

yeah, but the wall street journal is also reporting that US intelligence agencies confirmed SAM, so

[ringthree]

This was weirdly added to the end of the article and doesn't follow the narrative.

Militant: Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. It’s a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.

They say on TV it’s AN-26 transport plane, but they say it’s written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraine’s territory?

Nikolay Kozitsin: That means they were carrying spies. They shouldn’t be f…cking flying. There is a war going on.

Don't know what to make of that. It was just changed like a minute ago.

[Correction]

yeah, but the wall street journal is also reporting that US intelligence agencies confirmed SAM, so

WSJ has a headline up but no details, no names of said officials. It's really weird.

[Mertron]

Militant: Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. It’s a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.

why does it matter that so many of the corpses were women and children? are we saying they didn't deserve this because they were too weak/innocent to defend themselves? down with the patriarchy

[Xno Kappa]

I feel like news sites are starting to make up random quotes just for the sake of maximum trollage lol.

[Mertron]

I feel like news sites are starting to make up random quotes just for the sake of maximum trollage lol.

I feel like I could work for fox news and send them my posts in this thread as a resume

[Xajii]

WSJ has a headline up but no details, no names of said officials. It's really weird.

ok... what about joe biden? do you believe him?