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  1. #2701
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    My new favorite bodybuilding channel

    That's because some people just want testosterone injections for performance enhancement.
    Oh I know, but if I just wanted that i'd go to one of the hundreds of online mens clinics that will put you have 150+mg a week and HGH if you ask nicely without really giving a shit about bloodwork. I totally get the hesitation by docs, but it's also very annoying to not even have them take you seriously about getting blood work done and having to try to argue your case over and over again. It reminds me of my ex wife when she would go see her doc, tell them she never wants children 100% and never will ever ever ever, and wanted a procedure done to remove the capability since her period was insanely intense to where it would drive her to tears, doc was like "nah you'll want kids some day!" and refused every time.

    covering your ass is totally fine and dandy, but if a patient is pushing very very hard for it, understands the risk and knows what they want. Have them sign off on it and then let it happen. /rant

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    Hadn't rode for a week, feel like a cold is coming on, thought I'd take it easy on a 45 minute ride. Went slow for the first 10, then started to pick it up and just relentlessly chased down my 45 minute PR and smashed it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Yeah fuck that doctor, PCP or endo? If PCP just tell them you want a referral to endo, take those results and get on your juice. I had all my PCPs not want to test me or anything and when I finally did it was crazy low, like 220 at 37yrs
    PCP from Kaiser. Even the lab says 240-849 is considered a normal range. Would probably need to do one of those online doctors like HIMS or some shit

    Biggest thing for me is I fucking hate needles. I can tolerate if not watching and looking getting blood drawn and normal shots, but that's about it, so would need to go cream or patch route I guess even though it's not as efficient

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    PCP from Kaiser. Even the lab says 240-849 is considered a normal range. Would probably need to do one of those online doctors like HIMS or some shit

    Biggest thing for me is I fucking hate needles. I can tolerate if not watching and looking getting blood drawn and normal shots, but that's about it, so would need to go cream or patch route I guess even though it's not as efficient

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    So there's another option, pellets that slow release and are inserted into fat of your booty, they supposedly provide a more even level of test but you have to go get new ones every 7-9 months or so and insurance doesn't cover so it's like $400 I think? I tried them at first but went with needles since easier. The cream is good but you gotta make sure to allow time for it, because it's slow absorbing and you can't be touching anyone or anything until it absorbs fully.

    Also that range is always different per labs and per doctors, some have 200-1200, some are 250-900 etc etc. The range itself too encompasses men from 18yrs old to 85 or something. So insurance and doctors will look at your reading of 220 when you're 28-34yrs old and be like "Well it's within the range!". Also that level in your blood test is your maximum test usually, fasting and early in the morning is going to be the highest point and it just goes downhill from there.

    My insurance doesn't cover my test cyp because I was like 5 or 10pts higher then the bottom of the range, but it's still only $20-30 for about 2 months worth.

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    let me show them how a zombie operates
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    let me show them how a zombie operates
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    what caused this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Yeah fuck that doctor, PCP or endo? If PCP just tell them you want a referral to endo, take those results and get on your juice. I had all my PCPs not want to test me or anything and when I finally did it was crazy low, like 220 at 37yrs
    The range has been expanded to like 280s to upper 900s of what's considered a normal test level. Just start self prescribing. The general physician knowledge regarding steroids is pretty abysmal and even most endos will fight you on getting Test prescribed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    let me show them how a zombie operates
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    Have you messaged my guy or still don't want to go on because of international travel and carrying gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Fuck MPMD this guy and his following are terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Have you messaged my guy or still don't want to go on because of international travel and carrying gear?
    the latter

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Fuck MPMD this guy and his following are terrible.
    derek is an absolute retard, its actually fun to watch him be as horrible as he is

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    For Zealot:

    Shoulders:

    Overhead Shoulder Press
    4x 12, then AMRAP 175 and got 16

    DB Front Raise
    5x20

    Superset
    DB Lateral Raise
    5x 12
    DB Lateral Raise (Partials)
    5 x 20-30

    DB Rear Delt Flies
    4x 20

    DB Rear Delt Swings
    3 x 40, 3 x 30, 3 x 20, 3 x 15, 3 x 10

    Cable Rear delt flies
    4 x 15

    Cable Lateral Raises
    4 x 15 (each arm)

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    imagine being able to do a shoulder press. couldnt be me.

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    ARMS

    Machine Preacher Curls
    5 x 10 with 2 sec squeeze at the top

    Alternating Bicep curls
    SuperSet
    Incline DB Bicep curls
    4x 12

    21s
    3 sets

    Reverse Grip Bicep Curls
    5 x 12

    Rope Triceps pushdown
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    Dips
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    Rope overhead tricep extension
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    The range has been expanded to like 280s to upper 900s of what's considered a normal test level. Just start self prescribing. The general physician knowledge regarding steroids is pretty abysmal and even most endos will fight you on getting Test prescribed.
    Hmm, if low end is 280 now I wonder if I could get insurance to cover my shit finally. I agree any PCP is gonna not know anything, fucking my old PCP didn't know what DHT was...I was like "I need to know my DHT levels as well" and he asked me what that meant and still didn't understand. Thankfully my Endo is a Harvard/Yale overachiever and knows his shit and been working with me. Not gonna self prescribe with my family history of heart issues and what not, I want a second set of eyes on my blood work and monitoring everything.

    Fuck MPMD this guy and his following are terrible.
    I like Derek based around how open he is about his cycle shit and everything else, a lot of it is nonsense talk but him being open gets some points from me, same with the Bumstead vid. Just actually being open about cycles and shit going on in the industry is going above and beyond the call nowadays. Mother fuckers on Reddit and shit think Chris Hemsworth's body in Thor Love and Thunder is natural because "good genetics and lots of working out!". People are so blinded by the Hollywood "eat chicken and rice" bullshit.

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    derek's openness would be admirable if it wasnt so god damn stupid. but yes openness is great but i prefer the likes of daddy noel or jon skywalker

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    chicken and rice does slap tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    https://journals.physiology.org/doi/...egu.00372.2013

    You should use testosterone as you get older.
    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Hmm, if low end is 280 now I wonder if I could get insurance to cover my shit finally. I agree any PCP is gonna not know anything, fucking my old PCP didn't know what DHT was...I was like "I need to know my DHT levels as well" and he asked me what that meant and still didn't understand. Thankfully my Endo is a Harvard/Yale overachiever and knows his shit and been working with me. Not gonna self prescribe with my family history of heart issues and what not, I want a second set of eyes on my blood work and monitoring everything.



    I like Derek based around how open he is about his cycle shit and everything else, a lot of it is nonsense talk but him being open gets some points from me, same with the Bumstead vid. Just actually being open about cycles and shit going on in the industry is going above and beyond the call nowadays. Mother fuckers on Reddit and shit think Chris Hemsworth's body in Thor Love and Thunder is natural because "good genetics and lots of working out!". People are so blinded by the Hollywood "eat chicken and rice" bullshit.
    I was all about the everyone should be open about use but now they've meme'd Tren and teens are buying it and using it for cycles without the proper ancillaries, supplements or reversal drugs on hand. Some things should be gate keeped. Also, if your diet is trash, steroids don't do anything and you truly do need good genetics for steroids to really work for you. I mean look at Bostin Lloyd and how terrible he looked. My guy was blasting grams of gear but he's dead at 29. But he would've been dead for other reasons cause he was an idiot. Like he had a necrotic limb and still didn't want to go to the hospital when his flesh started falling off him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    derek's openness would be admirable if it wasnt so god damn stupid. but yes openness is great but i prefer the likes of daddy noel or jon skywalker
    I love Daddy Noel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    chicken and rice does slap tho
    Only people who can't cook still eat just chicken and rice. Like with the advent of IG and social media there are so many bodybuilder/athlete specific accounts to follow that give all kinds of recipes.

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