The Ferguson, Missouri thread

[Gokku]

i really wish the looters would stop fucking this all up, it would go along way towards actual change, but ignorant niggas only care about themselves.

[tyven]

Jfc for the first time ever amnesty international is deploying in USA. How sad

[notorious bum]

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Omg, undercover cops in the crowd. Pulling people aside and arresting them for throwing stuff back. #Ferguson

[6souls]

“It’s OK, he shouted. “That’s our people shooting at the cops.”

Another round of unrest erupted in the streets of Ferguson, Mo., Sunday night as volleys of tear gas, flash grenades and Molotov cocktails split the darkness, hours before a midnight curfew went into effect.

The new street eruptions stemming from the police shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown came as a private autopsy revealed that Brown had been shot at least six times, including twice in the head.

Anthony Gray, an attorney for the Brown family, said a diagram provided by New York forensics expert Dr. Michael Baden, commissioned by the family to do an independent examination, revealed details of the bullets that struck Brown’s body during his Aug. 9 encounter with a white police officer.

The fact that one of the shots struck the top of Brown’s head, Gray said, was significant.

“To have a shot that’s at a 90-degree angle from the top of his skull to the bottom of his chin, almost vertical, that sounds like an officer standing over him,” Gray said

Baden said his examination suggested that none of the six bullets was fired at point-blank range, but all were fired from at least one to two feet away.

“There’s no evidence of powder residue,” Baden said in a telephone interview with the Los Angeles Times.

Baden said two bullets struck Brown in the head: one in the forehead, and one at the top of the head—fired at “a right angle to the top of the head.”

“The top of the head one was the one that would have made him unconscious and fall to the ground,” Baden said.

But it is difficult to draw firm conclusions from that, he said, without also considering witness statements and marks on Brown’s clothing. “The head is very moveable, and it can be in a number of positions,” he said.

At least one of the wounds to Brown’s arm “could have been defensive,” Baden said.

Police say Brown had participated in a strong-arm robbery at a mini-mart shortly before his encounter with Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson.

Wilson, police said, was confronted by Brown inside his police car in a scuffle that led to the shootings. At least one witness who was accompanying Brown that afternoon has said Brown was shot as he walked away from the police officer with his hands raised, and then was hit with additional bullets.

The latest round of street clashes Sunday night began at about 9:30 p.m., as a large group of protesters began marching toward a shopping center where police have set up a command post.

Protesters held their hands aloft, chanting “Hands up, don’t shoot,” and police began lobbing smoke canisters and tear gas toward the marchers as they neared the command post and refused to back down.

Protesters fled at first, then held their ground in the middle of the street; a few protesters grabbed smoke canisters from the street and hurled them back at police. Large numbers of people found themselves unable to flee as police advanced in half a dozen military vehicles because the street was blocked by the crowd behind them.

“It’s unbelievable. This is something you would see on TV in a third-world country. Tear gas—I’ve never seen it escalate to that point,” said Martin McDonald, 38, a truck driver from the town of Florissant who joined the protests for the first time on Sunday.

Chris Hudson, 31, a construction worker, said he wished protesters would gather near the police station, instead of paralyzing a residential area.

“I feel like they’re taking advantage of the situation,” he said as stood on the side of the street, watching as police advanced in a cloud of gas.

“They should have let people be. It’s not even 12:00 yet,” said Nikki Chamberlain, 36, referring to the midnight-to-5-a.m. curfew ordered by Gov. Jay Nixon on Saturday. “It’s like they didn’t give us a chance.”

She watched as a young man threw a canister back at police.

“Good,” she said. “Give them a taste of their own medicine.”

She gestured into the surrounding darkness.

“Somewhere out there, there’s still people’s houses getting broken into, people getting raped, kids getting molested. And they’re out here with people demonstrating peacefully. A peaceful situation turned into a war. We’re not here acting like animals,” she said.

Kenny Thompson, 21, rubbed his eyes and doused his face with a bottle of water after inhaling the gas. Several gunshots were heard, and Thompson called out to those who began running.

“It’s OK, he shouted. “That’s our people shooting at the cops.”

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...17-story.html#

[Arelian]

i really wish the looters would stop fucking this all up, it would go along way towards actual change, but ignorant niggas only care about themselves.

I genuinely don't know how the authorities (police or otherwise) should handle the situation due to this. Like, the initial response is not excusable. But now? I refuse to justify anything, but I have no idea how a situation like this could be handled in a good way. When the police are told to expect violence from crowds of people, how are they supposed to react?

[6souls]

[Sho]

i really wish the looters would stop fucking this all up, it would go along way towards actual change, but ignorant niggas only care about themselves.

^ Been saying this since looting started.

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https://twitter.com/BlogXilla/status/501223157739831296

Two bodies on the street in #Ferguson one was covered and put into an ambulance.

[Gokku]

I genuinely don't know how the authorities (police or otherwise) should handle the situation due to this. Like, the initial response is not excusable. But now? I refuse to justify anything, but I have no idea how a situation like this could be handled in a good way. When the police are told to expect violence from crowds of people, how are they supposed to react?

The initial response and subsequent actions be law enforcement to even handle the situations was "poorly" handled at best , about 60% of this shit could have been avoided if they had acted properly.

[6souls]

Sub stream is marching with the cops - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q0wA4OmCd4

[Arelian]

The initial response and subsequent actions be law enforcement to even handle the situations was "poorly" handled at best , about 60% of this shit could have been avoided if they had acted properly.

Absolutely. But that doesn't particularly matter in the here and now. It's an important thing to look back on, 100%. But right now? How the hell can anyone react rationally to something like the article quoted above? People peacefully approaching the Police Command? When people are screaming, "Don't worry, those are our people shooting at the cops!" after that peaceful approach is turned away (Because, really, how can anyone know who actually has peaceful intentions and who's instigating/waiting to shoot?)

[6souls]

wow.. that video on the main stream. Police fired tear gas behind a group of protesters, then again in front of them so even if they ran that would still get hit by the gas.

[notorious bum]

edit: beaten, read above.

[6souls]

[Sho]

Absolutely. But that doesn't particularly matter in the here and now. It's an important thing to look back on, 100%. But right now? How the hell can anyone react rationally to something like the article quoted above? People peacefully approaching the Police Command? When people are screaming, "Don't worry, those are our people shooting at the cops!" after that peaceful approach is turned away (Because, really, how can anyone know who actually has peaceful intentions and who's instigating/waiting to shoot?)

There's not much they can do at this point. Why? Because niggas and opportunists are within the crowds who came to peacefully protest. So the common police mentality at this point is to include everyone under an umbrella for them to stop and go about it indiscriminately. The police are exhausted, and the residents are pretty pissed off -- because the people who are doing wrong and fucking shit up don't even live there.

Not everyone out there is doing wrong, but you can only imagine how the police must feel right now. It's gonna be a very long cycle of bullshit now.

[SephYuyX]

but I have no idea how a situation like this could be handled in a good way. When the police are told to expect violence from crowds of people, how are they supposed to react?

It's handled by curfew. Anyone out past that should be concidered a threat and treated as such. Anyone who would be peacefully protesting should be home by then, and come back at 5.

[Gokku]

Absolutely. But that doesn't particularly matter in the here and now. It's an important thing to look back on, 100%. But right now? How the hell can anyone react rationally to something like the article quoted above? People peacefully approaching the Police Command? When people are screaming, "Don't worry, those are our people shooting at the cops!" after that peaceful approach is turned away (Because, really, how can anyone know who actually has peaceful intentions and who's instigating/waiting to shoot?)

Oh by all means shit is fucked ,the easyest fix i can see... Martial law needs to be declared to get people off the streets and to cool off, and on the police side heads need to roll , publicly and swiftly. Its a full blown blood is in the water situation and unless people get their pound of flesh its going to get worse and worse.

[tyven]

The world needs Yeezus more than ever

[Sho]

One can only hope someone else doesn't get killed or shit's gonna go down.

Obama fucking up by not being in Ferguson right now.

[Gokku]

LOL at the cops reaction on vice

" i got tear gas'd several times this week , and ive done nothing"

cop: "......" *shifts hat nervously*

[6souls]