The Ferguson, Missouri thread

[kuronosan]

So you're telling me peaceful protests don't work?

Yep. Sometimes they don't. Look at the Colonial Revolt. Man them terrorists sure did it peacefully.

[Qalbert]

loud and disruptive doesn't make it not peaceful, violence makes it not peaceful

[Sho]

So you're telling me peaceful protests don't work?

They do work at times, but they are almost always prone to Civil Unrest when it's a human [civil] rights problem.

You can look at any protest in history that devolved into rioting and looting. They are almost always linked to civil rights problems.

[Salodin]

loud and disruptive doesn't make it not peaceful, violence makes it not peaceful

Agreed, but the broken windows, burnt buildings, and bricks in the road tell me this is not peaceful. Like I said, I sympathize with them, but won't sit here and act like the police aren't in the right by moving in to protect businesses and roads. Looters suck, legit protesters getting caught in the middle.

[Correction]

So you're telling me peaceful protests don't work?

They only work if the opposing party cares about your health and safety.
That is completely out of the window with the police in this case.

[SephYuyX]

What are they even protesting for anymore? Is there something that isn't being done that they're hoping will happen by protesting? Wheels are in motion for anything I can think of. Is someone hoping that protesting loudly enough will ensure the autopsy points in favor of the kid?

[notorious bum]

The very first action taken by the police after Mike Brown was executed was to rally up their riot gear and start pointing guns at people. They've escalated the situation this whole entire time, save for the brief PR attempt to change faces and replace the military gear with regular po-po. Now, back to military tactics and countless reports the past few days, returning to the same themes: police instigating and engaging first, attacking and arresting press, lying about and omitting information.

Update: Looks like the county autopsy has confirmed that Mike Brown was raging on that mary jane.

[Kuya]

What are they even protesting for anymore? Is there something that isn't being done that they're hoping will happen by protesting? Wheels are in motion for anything I can think of. Is someone hoping that protesting loudly enough will ensure the autopsy points in favor of the kid?

What black people want is to not be treated as criminals by default.

[ronin sparthos]

What are they even protesting for anymore? Is there something that isn't being done that they're hoping will happen by protesting? Wheels are in motion for anything I can think of. Is someone hoping that protesting loudly enough will ensure the autopsy points in favor of the kid?

People want attention brought to the racist ideals that lay dormant beneath the surface in America. What the pet topic is of course, depends on the person. When you're stuck in the poverty cycle long enough, protesting is really your only way to give yourself voice.

It's amusing how quick every black vs. establishment affair quickly descends into blaming the victim and how the negative is presented before the positive. As if fucking looting doesn't happen in almost any protest situation. It's almost like the country has some unaired grievances with blacks or relies on stereotypes to avoid touching the pile of racist shit in the room. We give every available benefit of the doubt to people of other races but blax? It's in the blood apparently.

Nothing to do with being opportunity starved by racist policy and stereotyping.

[Acevalefor]

What are they even protesting for anymore? Is there something that isn't being done that they're hoping will happen by protesting? Wheels are in motion for anything I can think of. Is someone hoping that protesting loudly enough will ensure the autopsy points in favor of the kid?

How about a de-millitarization of police forces in America? Maybe outside investigations of police discharging a firearm? Or what about a uniform code of conduct requiring all police departments in America to meet minimum standards in conduct, accountability, and training?

[notorious bum]

Tired of inciting riots? Odd RT @ABC: JUST IN: Missouri governor: "We will not use a curfew tonight" in Ferguson - http://abcn.ws/YnuNdB

[ronin sparthos]

Paging anti gummint folk, paging anti gummint folk. You're needed on line 1.

[Sho]

Tired of inciting riots? Odd RT @ABC: JUST IN: Missouri governor: "We will not use a curfew tonight" in Ferguson - http://abcn.ws/YnuNdB

Of course they won't use a curfew, the National Guard has been activated.

[Kaslo]

It's easier to shot all the black people if they aren't locked down in their own houses. duh.

[ringthree]

I legitimately do not know the specifics of the rules re: peaceful assembly; is this type of declaration constitutional?

Already said this on chat, but the constitution says peaceful assembly. And the SC for a long time has said that means you need a permit and spontaneous gatherings are not covered.

[Correction]

What are they even protesting for anymore?

You're being pretty dense if you think this case is thought of as an isolated incident.

[Xno Kappa]

National Guard going to make shit worse. You think the police in this city are undertrained? Now imagine a force that plays army one weekend out of the month lol.

[Acevalefor]

National Guard going to make shit worse. You think the police in this city are undertrained? Now imagine a force that plays army one weekend out of the month lol.

But it's two weeks a year as well!

[kuronosan]

But it's two weeks a year as well!

With a guaranteed job after you finishing shooting your fellow citizens.

[Ksandra]

National Guard going to make shit worse. You think the police in this city are undertrained? Now imagine a force that plays army one weekend out of the month lol.

This is very true. I wish the guard would just come in and put everyone (protesters and police) in the corner for time out.

Make them all watch Barney for a few hours or some shit.