The Ferguson, Missouri thread

[tyven]

I don't even smoke, but did that path seriously say the weed must have made Brown crazy?

Take away his license. Please.

he didn't say "must" but i believe he said "could have"

[Dimmauk]

I want to see the narrative of all this if it's proven Brown bumrushed the cop after running away initially. Thought these protests and riots were bad now? Ohhhh boy

Why would he rush the officer? Because of the "robbery"? LOL.

Nobody is going to rush a cop over a couple swishers. Come on man. Most minorities will deny everything till you provide evidence.

[Builttolast]

Seriously. Give an idiot or a bully a badge and a paycheck and suddenly he's above the law? Fuck off. Arrest them just the same and let the justice system sort it out. Hiding behind the thin blue line when police behave like criminals is what causes people to protest. Fucking cowards.

[kuronosan]

he didn't say "must" but i believe he said "could have"

Okay. Phew. Laced weed I could see.

But run of the mill? lawl

[Lucavi]

Also there are problems with how the justice system is applied to minorities, I don't see how fighting fire with fire is necessarily an answer to that...

Of course you don't. You've never been in a situation as hopeless and infuriating as they have.

[Khajit]

Yes ignoring the justice system to appease protesters is the right thing to do. Maybe they should just drag him out and lynch him as well.

Arresting a person that according to multiple eyewitnesses shot and murdered a person in a position of surrender in cold blood as evidence keeps piling up that refutes his stated version of events is ignoring the justice system people. Clearly The people of Ferguson have strange ideas about the Justice and Judicial systems and are angered/protesting out of a misunderstanding of the concept instead of a lack of it.

[Ksandra]

This thread has taught me that neph needs to watch the john oliver clip like twenty times and then come back and realize why people are acting the way they are.

[wipers]

What I've learned is that CNN ratings are through the roof. And the money gained off the suffering of others is justified.

[Salodin]

Yet, again, more ignoring autopsy results to cling onto fantasies spit out by neocon mouthpieces. "Oh! He got shot, ran away, turned around, ran back to get shot some more, and somehow, magically took a bullet to the top of his dome! Justice was served."

"Must've been that whacky thug weed. I think it's called Thug Passion."

The worst thing about this statement is the very person who did the autopsy says either scenario is still possible, that he surrendered or was running towards the cop. It was even quoted in this thread.

But ignore anything that doesn't confirm your bias. Whatevs.

[jmc]

This thread has taught me that neph needs to watch the john oliver clip like twenty times and then come back and realize why people are acting the way they are.

Watched it, whoever is handling the department PR is a idiot.

Withholding the officers name though I don't have a problem with, and I think they did it correctly. However i'm probably the minority with that remark.

[Correction]

How we'd cover Ferguson if it happened in another country

Missouri, far-removed from the glistening capital city of Washington, is ostensibly ruled by a charismatic but troubled official named Jay Nixon, who has appeared unable to successfully intervene and has resisted efforts at mediation from central government officials. Complicating matters, President Obama is himself a member of the minority sect protesting in Ferguson, which is ruled overwhelmingly by members of America's majority "white people" sect.

Though Ferguson's streets remained quiet on Friday, a palpable sense of tension and uncertainty hung in the air. A Chinese Embassy official here declined to comment but urged all parties to exhibit restraint and respect for the rule of law. In Moscow, Kremlin planners were said to be preparing for a possible military intervention should political instability spread to the nearby oil-producing region of Texas.

[Enkidu]

Arresting a person that according to multiple eyewitnesses shot and murdered a person in a position of surrender in cold blood as evidence keeps piling up that refutes his stated version of events is ignoring the justice system people. Clearly The people of Ferguson have strange ideas about the Justice and Judicial systems and are angered/protesting out of a misunderstanding of the concept instead of a lack of it.

There's testimony from right after the shooting that Brown did indeed run back at the cop before getting shot. Do you just ignore that testimony? Nothing in the autopsy report excludes that from having happened, in fact the only thing the autopsy proves is that he wasn't shot in the back.

Personally I think the DA should be more transparent and more evidence should be released, but arresting the officer to quell a protest is stupid as fuck.

[Xno Kappa]

It's very possible to tell whether or not the individual was running with bullet trajectories on the victims body in comparison to the point of origin. The investigators probably already know either/or.

[Charismatic]

and I think they did it correctly. However i'm probably the minority with that remark.

As long as you don't mean releasing it with the irrelevant character assassination info, I can agree with you.
If that's what you mean then whooo boy.

[kuronosan]

There's testimony from right after the shooting that Brown did indeed run back at the cop before getting shot. Do you just ignore that testimony? Nothing in the autopsy report excludes that from having happened, in fact the only thing the autopsy proves is that he wasn't shot in the back.

Personally I think the DA should be more transparent and more evidence should be released, but arresting the officer to quell a protest is stupid as fuck.

So selection bias then? Why is it permissible to ignore testimony that Brown was shot in cold blood but okay to listen to evidence corroborating the officer's account?

[jmc]

As long as you don't mean releasing it with the irrelevant character assassination info, I can agree with you.
If that's what you mean then whooo boy.

Just withholding the name, because a huge safety issue happened shortly after his name was released thanks to the media.

[Ksandra]

Just withholding the name, because a huge safety issue happened shortly after his name was released thanks to the media.

Yeah, I agree with the name holding even though I know that infuriated people. They needed to avoid a witch hunt.

They could have taken him into custody though and told people that instead of giving him paid leave.

[Abandon]

the biggest safety issue that i see here is that if myself or chari do anything close to what this kid did, we would be shot, but calli would receive due process.

[Sho]

I want to see the narrative of all this if it's proven Brown bumrushed the cop after running away initially. Thought these protests and riots were bad now? Ohhhh boy

Not going to happen.

You must watch too many movies where the protagonist strong arm people shooting live ammunition at them left and right. Here in reality, people actually fear for their lives. No one wants to die over some cigarillos. No one has the audacity to try and charge an officer unless they no longer want to live on this earth anymore. Try and be smarter about the situation.

There's testimony from right after the shooting that Brown did indeed run back at the cop before getting shot. Do you just ignore that testimony? Nothing in the autopsy report excludes that from having happened, in fact the only thing the autopsy proves is that he wasn't shot in the back.

Personally I think the DA should be more transparent and more evidence should be released, but arresting the officer to quell a protest is stupid as fuck.

To be frank, there's currently only two accounts on the police officer's side. One anonymous account from a friend of the officer, claiming to be his "friend" -- which now can be seen as third hand information, and the very scare account provided by the police. It's going on two weeks now and they still haven't mounted a very good defense or corroborating evidence supporting Wilson.

Arresting the police officer wouldn't be stupid. Do you not know how a riot mindset works? Most people who protest and riot want to see "justice" it doesn't have to be the cop getting his head cut off or anything. They want to see this officer who shot Brown in some form of incarceration pending trial and not able to be outside in the world with them. It would be an effective method of getting many protestors and rioters off the street immediately.

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A far better strategy is something that the police force is now employing, if none of you guys didn't know -- Allowing the citizens of Ferguson police themselves and act as intermediaries between the police and the people protesting/rioting. They have church members and people of significant influence out there helping to push back the masses when they advance on the police to antagonize and incite them. They've been performing citizen's arrests on people who are being very belligerent, I've been watching scenes of this all last night before I passed out. Not everyone is out there trying to give the police hell and fuck shit up for the sake of fucking shit up, they just want to be heard and are voicing their concerns of the police force as well as the killling of Brown.

[kuronosan]

LOL