The Ferguson, Missouri thread

[Weegion]

Intercept Reporter Shot With Beanbags and Arrested While Covering Ferguson Protests

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...uson-protests/

At a press conference early this morning, Missouri Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson told reporters in Ferguson that 31 arrests had been made, including members of the “criminal element” from “as far away as New York.” When asked by a reporter if any of those 31 had been reporters, he immediately–and falsely–replied, “these people were not journalists that were arrested.”

Ryan and Lukas Hermsmeier, a reporter for the German newspaper De Bild, were both apprehended last night—and shot with beanbags and rubber bullets—while attempting to return to their car after a night of reporting. When they were shot at, they had their hands raised in the air and were shouting, “Press! Press! Press!”

[notorious bum]

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution has a stream of the new crime scene with people gathering + the Gaza carpet bombing light show.

edit: stream is really dodgy http://www.livestream.com/activistworldnewsnow is better

[Correction]

CNN has been extremely shit in their coverage of this story so you can remove them from your daily diet. You should have removed them years ago tbqh.

[Jaffar]

But if officers are trained for center of mass aiming, why the two head shots?

If the cop did actually have an orbital fracture, I'm sure his aim was impacted.

[notorious bum]

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 6m

Neighborhood people saying he was mentally challenged. Saying "Hands up! don't shoot!" Tense bad scene here.

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 5m

Everyone yelling: why not use the taser.

Joy Reid ‏@JoyAnnReid 13m

Reporters asked @ChiefSLMPD why officers didn't Taze the suspect. The two officers on administrative duty pending investigation.

[Wulfgang]

If the cop did actually have an orbital fracture, I'm sure his aim was impacted.

Indeed; or the headshots occurred after the center of mass shots caused the suspect to double over thus putting the head in center of mass territory (as suggested in one autopsy report). It's plausible, but certainly not definite. Hence why I wouldn't choose one side or the other at this juncture.

[Cail]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...ssouri-protest

LANDOVER, Md. -- The "Hands up, don't shoot" protest has made its way to the NFL.

The Washington Redskins secondary emerged from the stadium tunnel during pregame introductions Monday night with hands raised and palms forward.

It was a show of solidarity with the people in Ferguson, Missouri, who are protesting the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown. Eleven players took part as the team was preparing to face the Cleveland Browns.

Safety Ryan Clark said Brown "could have been any one of us. That could have been any one of our brothers, our cousins. ... When you get an opportunity to make a statement and be more than a football player, it's good."

Protesters have gathered daily in Ferguson since Brown was fatally was shot by a police officer Aug. 9.

[Correction]

More "clerical errors"

78 Arrested Overnight, Most From Missouri, Arrest Records Show

Jail records obtained by NBC News show that at least 78 people were arrested overnight at the protests in Ferguson, Missouri — more than double the total reported by authorities — and that the overwhelming majority of them were from Missouri.

Of the 78, all but three were arrested for refusing to disperse, the records show. Two people, both from the St. Louis area, were arrested for unlawful use of a weapon, and a man from Rockton, Illinois, was arrested for interfering with an officer.

Authorities had reported early that 31 people were arrested overnight. Authorities early Tuesday blamed people from out of town for some criminal activity.

The records reflect people who were booked into the St. Louis County jail. It is possible, but not clear, that others were booked at other jails.

The records show that 18 people from outside Missouri were arrested Monday night and early Tuesday. They came came from as far away as Brooklyn, Washington, D.C., and San Diego.

[notorious bum]

Great article by Dave Zirin:

The Major Problem With Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s Powerful Essay on Ferguson

There is so much good in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s Time magazine essay about the protests following the police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, that it almost feels churlish to raise any kind of criticism. After all, here is a basketball legend, the all-time leading scorer in NBA history, the master of the skyhook, marshaling his platform to speak about poverty and class in the United States. Kareem even references the new book Unspeakable Things: Sex, Lies and Revolution, by radical journalist Laurie Penny.

Everyone should read his piece. People in the United States with positions of authority rarely, if ever, talk about class. And yet here is Kareem putting not just Ferguson but the whole of the United States directly under that economic microscope saying, “We have to address the situation not just as another act of systemic racism, but as what else it is: class warfare.”

http://www.thenation.com/blog/181310...essay-ferguson

[Abandon]

Indeed; or the headshots occurred after the center of mass shots caused the suspect to double over thus putting the head in center of mass territory (as suggested in one autopsy report). It's plausible, but certainly not definite. Hence why I wouldn't choose one side or the other at this juncture.

if the kid was doubling over from the first x amount of shots, why did he continue to shoot? i know we arent trained to attempt to empty a clip; loss of life is the last thing you want on your hands as an arm of the law in any capacity, unless lethal force against you was imminent. knowing this kid was unarmed, not a good look.

[Enkidu]

Read the rest of her feed. She's currently on medical leave from the paper and isn't tweeting in her capacity as a reporter.



Translation: "My story about dozens of witnesses doesn't have enough backing it up to make it to any newspaper, so that's why theblaze and drudgereport and every racist on the internet has picked it up and run with it."

Saw that, FMLA can have weird restrictions. My wife was told repeatedly that even accessing her email could result in disciplinary action - probably got her in trouble with her employer by tweeting that depending on their policies. I'd doubt it has anything to do with validity, do reporters even care about that anymore?

Guess we'll see in the next few weeks whether or not it's true...

[tyven]

if the kid was doubling over from the first x amount of shots, why did he continue to shoot? i know we arent trained to attempt to empty a clip; loss of life is the last thing you want on your hands as an arm of the law in any capacity, unless lethal force against you was imminent. knowing this kid was unarmed, not a good look.

i always thought police were trained to empty clip, or at the very least two in the chest one in the head? neph and jmc can confirm im sure.

[notorious bum]

Random tumblr comment, anyone else read about this elsewhere?

"TUESDAY 8/19: Ferguson PD presented a table full of fabricated evidence at this morning’s press conference - allegedly seized from protestors and stopped cars. The Colt 45 Molotov with a white bandana was the crowning glory, turns out you can’t even buy glass 40’s in Missouri. Stay classy, FPD"

[Weegion]

Could have come from one of the out-of-towners.

[Salodin]

If rioters and vagrants are all from out of town, wouldn't their weapons be from out of town too?

[notorious bum]

I know, I just wanted to confirm that was true or not.

[Abandon]

i always thought police were trained to empty clip, or at the very least two in the chest one in the head? neph and jmc can confirm im sure.

thats hilarious, because this means they are being trained to kill everyone they contact that they may need to testify. we are trained to fire twice, center mass, and only more if necessary, unless yo ass cant shoot.

[tyven]

i dont find it hard to believe that these dudes road tripping in from surrounding areas are crushing 40s otw.

[tyven]

thats hilarious, because this means they are being trained to kill everyone they contact that they may need to testify. we are trained to fire twice, center mass, and only more if necessary, unless yo ass cant shoot.

like i said, im not positive, but im pretty sure they are trained to kill, not incapacitate. like i said need big homie neph or jmc to weigh in.

[kuronosan]

If rioters and vagrants are all from out of town, wouldn't their weapons be from out of town too?

Let's assume that you're correct (which isn't out of the realm of possibility if we're being logical, of course). Are we assuming that the rioters are leaving Missouri, buying a glass Colt 45, and making a Molotov out of it ... or that they have a spare one lying around? Or do you think it's safer to assume that if they wanted to make a molotov, they could easily do so given the abundance of alcohol found at local liquor stores?

Missouri isn't a dry state. Alcohol isn't hard to come by.

Illinois, on the other hand, I have never shopped at (for alcohol). Given the proximity of places such as O'Fallon I don't know how reasonable it is to assume that these are coming from there.

What is most definitely safe to assume is that the people causing this are NOT from Ferguson, yet the citizens of Ferguson are paying in droves.