The Ferguson, Missouri thread

[Correction]

CNN just put out a number saying out of the 77 arrested, 20 were from out of state.

NBC news still says 18 out of 78. Either they didn't update their story or CNN is rounding up to the nearest negro.

[Correction]

The Pros And Cons Of Militarizing The Police

PROS

• Same tactics used successfully in Afghanistan, Iraq
• Look on driver’s face when tank pulls up beside Mini Cooper always fun
• Local photojournalists now able to capture fog of war at home
• Nice surprise treat for veterans to see weapons they used in war pop up on their hometown streets

CONS

• Most police officers have proven fully capable of violently subduing protesters without any military-grade weapons
• There no longer any middle ground between community watch and military
• Jesus, just look at this shit
• Military-style helmets limit peripheral vision while firing indiscriminately into crowd
• Could potentially be abused if put in lesser hands than America’s historically honest and virtuous police departments
• Takes away that personal touch of beating a suspect to death with bare hands

[Quicklet]

CNN just put out a number saying out of the 77 arrested, 20 were from out of state.

How many of those 20 were journalists?

[Smokie]

NBC news still says 18 out of 78. Either they didn't update their story or CNN is rounding up to the nearest negro.

Lol

[Dimmauk]

Talk about tinfoil hats...

Aside from the amount of people who would have to be in on it, including the medical personnel that checked on his injuries after the shooting, it makes no sense to break bones in your face when you can just bruise yourself up a bit instead.

What's easier to believe, a cop orchestrating an elaborate attempt at faking injuries, or said cop took a hard ass hit to the face from Brown? If it makes life easier for you, you can believe what you want once we know for certain if there was a struggle in the car or not.

It's easier to believe a cop would fake injuries. Wouldn't you if it saved your ass? I'd let someone shoot me in the leg to save my ass. Fuck that is easier to believe than someone attacking a police officer in their vehicle.

[Weegion]

How many of those 20 were journalists?

Press Freedom Foundation saying 13 total since the beginning.

https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/b...lists-ferguson

August 19, 2014

Lukas Hermsmeier of Bild: source | records request.
Ryan Devereaux of the Intercept: source | records request.
August 18, 2014

Ansgar Graw of Die Welt: source | records request.
Frank Hermann of Der Standard: source | records request.
Scott Olson of Getty Images: source | records request.
Kerry Picket of Breitbart News: source | records request.
August 17, 2014

Rob Crilly of The Telegraph: source | records request.
Matthew Giles, journalism student at New York University: source | records request.
Robert Klemko of Sports Illustrated: source | records request.
Neil Munshi of the Financial Times: source | records request.
August 13, 2014

Antonio French, St. Louis alderman and citizen journalist: source | records request.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post: source | records request (by J. K. Trotter).
Ryan J. Reilly of The Huffington Post: source | records request (by J. K. Trotter).

[thetruepandagod]

The Pros And Cons Of Militarizing The Police

PROS

• Sweet as fuck riot pics
  

CONS

• None
  

Civilians shouldn't be allowed to buy gasmasks or body armor either or knives or guns or bats. I want awesome pictures of people with bandanas throwing bricks and sticks.

[notorious bum]

What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting
http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult..._shooting.html

1. Dorian Johnson, Michael Brown’s friend.


Johnson was with Brown when they were stopped by police.

During interviews with reporters, Johnson recounted the chilling confrontation. He said that a police car pulled up alongside Brown and him, and the officer—who has been identified as Darren Wilson—allegedly told Johnson and Brown to “get the f--k on the sidewalk.”

The two men told the officer that they were only minutes away from their destination. Johnson said that Wilson backed up his car and asked Brown and Johnson what they just said. Johnson claimed that Wilson then tried to open his car door but the door ricocheted off of Brown’s body and closed again.

Johnson said that Wilson pulled Brown through the car window by his neck, and Brown began to try to pull away. Johnson said that Wilson shot Brown during the scuffle, and Brown managed to break away from Wilson’s grip. Brown and Johnson then began to run away from the police vehicle.

Johnson said that Wilson got out of his car and began to shoot at Brown while Brown was running away. Brown then stopped, put his hands in the air, turned around and pleaded with the officer to stop shooting, since he didn’t have a gun.

Johnson said that Wilson continued to fire several more shots before Brown’s body fell to the ground.


2. Tiffany Mitchell, who was visiting her employee in a nearby apartment complex.


Mitchell had never met or seen Michael Brown or Dorian Johnson. In fact, she’s not even from the area and was on her way to pick up an employee when the incident occurred.

During an interview with MSNBC, Mitchell said she was driving when she saw the confrontation at the point when Brown and Wilson were wrestling through the window. “Brown was pushing, trying to get away from the officer,” Mitchell explained, “and the officer was trying to pull him in.”

Mitchell’s and Johnson’s versions of events match up from that point on. A shot was fired, and Brown broke away and started to run down the street away from the police car. Mitchell said the officer then got out of his vehicle and started to pursue Brown, all the while shooting at him.

“Michael’s body jerked as if he were hit,” Mitchell said. “Then he turns around and put his hands up, and the officer continued to walk up on him and shoot him, until he goes all the way down to the ground.”

3. Piaget Crenshaw, the woman who saw the incident while standing on her apartment balcony.


Crenshaw was the employee that Mitchell was coming to pick up. She was standing on her apartment balcony and saw Brown running away from Wilson.

“I witnessed the police chase after the guy—full force,” Crenshaw told local news reporters in Ferguson. “[Brown] put his arm up to let them know that he was compliant and that he was unarmed, and they shot him twice more, and he fell to the ground and died.”

Crenshaw explained to reporters on the scene, “[Brown] was running this way, but his body is laying this way because he turned around to tell the police that he was unarmed.

“He didn’t have no weapon on him at all,” she continued. “They killed this boy for no reason, and there should be justice about this.”


4. Emmanuel Freeman, who reportedly tweeted about the shooting right after it happened


In a tweet that has supposedly been taken down but was captured by a few news sources, including the Huffington Post, Twitter user @_amourlace asks Freeman if Brown was running away or if he was in a car.

Freeman tweeted back, “no reason! He was running!”


5. The man who spoke to Brown right before he left for the convenience store.


A man, who preferred to speak on condition of anonymity, told Fox2 News that he and Brown had seen each other right before Brown went to the convenience store. The man said Brown told him that he was “feeling some bad vibes” but that the “Lord Jesus Christ” would help him through it. The man said that Brown said he’d return to continue their conversation after making a stop at the store.

Approximately 25 minutes later, the man heard gunfire and looked up and saw a man, who he didn’t know at the time was Brown, “staggering and running.”

The man said that Brown put his hands up and started screaming, “OK! OK! OK! OK! OK!” The witness claims that the police officer didn’t tell Brown to get on the ground or anything.

“He just started shooting,” the man continued, estimating that the officer shot Brown six or seven times after he turned around to seemingly surrender. “There’s no way you can justify it.”

[notorious bum]

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It's nbd guys, just handing out tanks made to withstand IEDs like candy to fight thugs and raid crackhouses.

[Meresgi]

Driving dem tanks on our shitty streets too, because fuck the US infrastructure!!!

[wipers]

How many autopsies does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop ?

[Salodin]

It's easier to believe a cop would fake injuries. Wouldn't you if it saved your ass? I'd let someone shoot me in the leg to save my ass. Fuck that is easier to believe than someone attacking a police officer in their vehicle.

You're missing the point. It's easier to just say you took a punch then to break bones. If they wanted to fake a bruise they'd fake a bruise. Why go so far as to break bones when bruises justify the same level of force used.

Medical personnel would not be able to tell the difference between a punch to the face and a punch to the face.

Christ.

See above. This will be scrutinized beyond hell, why fake breaking bones (which will be checked by multiple parties) when you can just say he punched you in the face (which can still be checked/proven).

If you really think they're faking these injuries then you're a new level of Cray.

[Dimmauk]

What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting
http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult..._shooting.html

Man. That is fucked up.

[tyven]

idk anything about autopsies but how is the body not ruined after the first?

[Dimmauk]

Yeah, seems like most of the work would be done already. The doctors doing the next autopsy have it easy.

[wipers]

idk anything about autopsies but how is the body not ruined after the first?

Normally you don't do multiple autopsies for that reason.

[Dimmauk]

You're missing the point. It's easier to just say you took a punch then to break bones. If they wanted to fake a bruise they'd fake a bruise. Why go so far as to break bones when bruises justify the same level of force used.

See above. This will be scrutinized beyond hell, why fake breaking bones (which will be checked by multiple parties) when you can just say he punched you in the face (which can still be checked/proven).

If you really think they're faking these injuries then you're a new level of Cray.

Punched by a door, kills witness to hide the embarrassment. LOL

[Xno Kappa]

I've been to countless autopsies and a second one, let alone a third, seems completely impractical to me. They literally take apart everything and filet the organs like every day meat. Then the shit all just gets tossed into a red biohazard bag, thrown into the brand new body cavity where everything used to be, and sew the corpse back up.

[wipers]

Yea I was reading about that in the newspaper today how second and third autopsies are not a common practice for that reason.

[NynJa]

I've been to countless autopsies and a second one, let alone a third, seems completely impractical to me. They literally take apart everything and filet the organs like every day meat. Then the shit all just gets tossed into a red biohazard bag, thrown into the brand new body cavity where everything used to be, and sew the corpse back up.

A bruised hand from punching a cop or a bruised neck from being grabbed like a dog, that would still be visible though, its not like that gets chopped up?