The Ferguson, Missouri thread

[NynJa]

Yes, that would also be stereotyping.

It's not hard to say that someone may be judged based on the clothes they're wearing without using any stereotypical modifiers, unless you're too lazy to give a shit.

So if I call it thug attire its still stereotyping. Got it. You didnt tell me what I'm supposed to call it.

[Galkaeater]

urban crime fatigues

[Kohan]

So if I call it thug attire its still stereotyping. Got it. You didnt tell me what I'm supposed to call it.

I did.

Clothes.

[notorious bum]

Wow. I take back my comments earlier. This dude is forreal.

[NynJa]

I did.

Clothes.

Lets try this then, using "clothes":

White people can get on a metro train and not get hassled by police or looked at by others (of course unless they dressed in clothes).

I sense a problem there, a lack of adjective fails to describe what kind of attire...or maybe you imply a lack of attire, and riding the train naked is acceptable?

This isnt a suit, these are "clothes"
http://nbcprohockeytalk.files.wordpr...ist2.jpg?w=302
Not spoilered because Hank.

These arent pyjamas, these are "clothes"

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http://www.missimo.com/media/catalog...7-SN-WHT_1.jpg

This isnt raver attire, these are "clothes"

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http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...f2ko1_1280.jpg
Kinda, I mean, theres not much on there

This isnt nerdwear (I made this term up), these are "clothes"

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http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/mr-ne...e-12402706.jpg

This isnt "performance sportswear", they're just "clothes"

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http://www.screentechdesign.co.uk/ac...PORTSWEAR3.gif

This isnt a hijab, they're just "clothes"

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http://hijabfashionstyles.com/wp-con...ab-designs.jpg

And for the sake of this thread, this man is also in "clothes"

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http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...ceUniform2.jpg
No, you cant call it a piggysuit, that would be stereotyping

Would you prefer "oversized baggy attire" (though according to Sho, that trend has finally moved on), because "clothes" means anything.

[chazzyphizzle]

lol

[Kohan]

Would you prefer "oversized baggy attire" (though according to Sho, that trend has finally moved on), because "clothes" means anything.

Yes, that's preferable. You're now using descriptive modifiers that have nothing to do with stereotyping. It took you an entire post, but in the end, you pulled through. I'm proud of you.

[Galkaeater]

reminds me of trying to describe someone without bringing up their race

[Tricen]

Not really. There's a difference between "Hey, this is my black friend J̶a̶m̶a̶lSteve.", and "Hey, this is my friend Steve." It's always kinda irked me when people did things like that. It insinuates certain things, whether intentional or not. Maybe it's just me, but people like to tag on certain things that aren't necessary, and kind of offensive? I'm not really the type to get indignant over things easily, but for some reason those things always bugged me. Introducing people, or referring to people as "my gay friend" or "my <race> friend" always just seemed unnecessary and kinda rude.

[Qalbert]

the strikethrough don't be silent

[Qalbert]

and yeah using unneeded modifiers/tags is one of the most basic forms of casual racism. my parents do it constantly. "I was trying to check out and this woman in front of me, who was black, was taking forever" as if that information is in any way relevant to the point "someone took forever to check out"

[test123]

and yeah using unneeded modifiers/tags is one of the most basic forms of casual racism. my parents do it constantly. "I was trying to check out and this woman in front of me, who was black, was taking forever" as if that information is in any way relevant to the point "someone took forever to check out"

While I was bum-rushing this cop, who was white, I got shot. As if that information is in any way relevant to the point.

[Qalbert]

damn you got me, I hate fucking crackers, DEATH TO HONKIES

[Qalbert]

or maybe the fact that he is a white officer of a predominantly white police force in a predominantly black town with a history of racial issues and harassment and abuse by the police is in fact relevant information. WHO KNEW?
*and that's putting aside your adherence to the currently unproven "bum-rush narrative"

[Pirian]

and yeah using unneeded modifiers/tags is one of the most basic forms of casual racism. my parents do it constantly. "I was trying to check out and this woman in front of me, who was black, was taking forever" as if that information is in any way relevant to the point "someone took forever to check out"

This always really bothered me because I would always immediately respond "why does it matter that they were black?" And I would most often get a blank look, or maybe even a chuckle because they think I'm joking. Then I'll explain that, no, I'm not joking, and yes, they are being racist. They are mostly upper-middle class white people that don't consider themselves to be racist, and for the most part I don't think that the majority of them are truly racist (in that they say their words with hate), but the language one uses to describe the world does paint their world.

It does feel like a losing battle, most of the time

[Aksannyi]

I personally used to hate when I'd have to describe someone to another person and I'd tell them what the person was wearing, hair color and style, and then I'd always mention their skin tone. People would get really upset with me for daring to bring up that someone was black. Um, that's a physical descriptor of the person though? You would be looking around the damn place for someone who doesn't fit the description. And yes, I do say when someone is white or brown, as well. So I really don't get why it's offensive for me to describe a person as black if what they're wanting is to locate a person matching a certain physical description.

Obviously bringing it up when it's completely irrelevant - "I sat down to eat with two black guys at lunch today," is like ... so what? Are you bragging that you're so accepting by telling your friends you sat down with a black person? Because that's basically saying, "LOOK AT ME, I'M NOT RACIST, I SAT WITH BLACK PEOPLE TODAY."

I do think there are times when race is absolutely relevant, but there are quite a few times when race is completely irrelevant.

[kuronosan]

Getting tired of seeing the "robbed store, assaults cop, gets shot, white house attends funeral" crap circulating.

They really have gone to extreme lengths to assassinate this guy's character.

[test123]

Getting tired of seeing the "robbed store, assaults cop, gets shot, white house attends funeral" crap circulating.

They really have gone to extreme lengths to assassinate this guy's character.

It seems to me that he did a good job doing that on his own:

[kuronosan]

Someone other than Happy Pillsmore want to chime in?

[notorious bum]

Strong-armed robberies that are so bad, you stay quiet and deny it, even AFTER the perp is dead. You can't deny the evidence.