Salvage Bans v 2.0

[vivbiibasjiu]

Well then if we are banning like that without actual review then they might as well be banning for Windower/Gearswap.

Why exactly do they need to train additional staff to continue doing what they had been doing for years when the population is lower and decreasing?



Yeah, and I have lived through it too, we all have. I have also lived through being the guy called a cheater for legitimately taking KB three times in a row over people there. People aren't happy regardless.

If you did 3 KB in a row you had it coming, should have played nice and taken turns in a line. Vana'Diel isn't your oyster to exploit at your leisure, there's other inhabitants coexisting alongside you

[Spicyryan]

If you did 3 KB in a row you had it coming, should have played nice and taken turns in a line. Vana'Diel isn't your oyster to exploit at your leisure, there's other inhabitants coexisting alongside you

QQ

I killed my three in the same time people were killing their one because I know that sitting there waiting on SA with my back turned doesn't help anything on KB. Regardless of the fact that people were not taking turns anyway I don't see why you are being a moral fag on the matter. As if I am raping poor defenseless Vana'diel or something ridiculous. Regardless I probably would have done it anyway.
I also am not banned and do not cheat unless you consider Windower cheating. The idea that you can think "I had it coming" for legitimately outclaiming people is really sad and really reflects poorly on you saying we should have all "played nice". No one should ask for anything in this situation beyond that someone is not cheating them on the claim.

There is right and there is wrong, and the grey in-between makes up the majority of everything. There is nothing wrong with claiming three times in a row when you are doing it legitimately. I don't log on to wait for people to take a long time forcing TH to 12 or even be slower on outdated content while I want to get in and get out.
It is not like I never take turns on things, but on something like this it is a smash and grab job.

EDIT: All this talk about KB man.

[Kyreth]

QQ

EDIT: All this talk about KB man.

Likely the oldest piece of gear that's still relevant. People were trying for Drings when I started. Ten years later, they still are and there will probably be people lined up to pop KB the day the servers go down.

[ColenzoRidesAgain]

Likely the oldest piece of gear that's still relevant. People were trying for Drings when I started. Ten years later, they still are and there will probably be people lined up to pop KB the day the servers go down.

so next year

[Spicyryan]

so next year

Nah they are going down the 13th this month.

Spoiler: show

But they are coming back up after the maintenance, and will be running into 2017 at least.

[D44kpunk]

yeah!! ffxi forever!!

can someone seriously please lock this, all it is is white knights arguing and people making up statistics

[Shenrien]

Stockholm syndrome is fascinating to observe from a third party.

[FNH]

yeah!! ffxi forever!!

can someone seriously please lock this, all it is is white knights arguing and people making up statistics

just don't click the link?

[Draylo]

Stockholm syndrome is fascinating to observe from a third party.

It's more interesting to observe how people act when they quit and want everything to burn since they left. Have to wonder what is going on in their heads.

[D44kpunk]

just don't click the link?

every time i click it i'm hoping there is new information or something relevant but there never is, for example draylo has probably said the thing below your post 50 times in this thread alone

[Shirai]

It's more interesting to observe how people act when they quit and want everything to burn since they left. Have to wonder what is going on in their heads.

I believe the psychological term for them is, in a state of denial.

[Savanah]

Can confirm for those whom are keeping track SE is indeed doing banning waves still. Another batch of folks on Carby got hit with the banhammer this morning. (3-4 that I know of)

[Draylo]

Were they using clipper etc still?

[dasva]

And we all laughed at the jps getting Shneddick ring...

[Shenrien]

Doesn't gearswap do something with packets which is why it's a lot more responsive with actual gear swapping? What are the chances SE on their end has setup something to track packets being sent and received to the players and that is how they're going about deciding who to ban or not?

[Savanah]

Pretty sure all were using Gearswap. Don't think speedtool use was involved.

[Draylo]

Doesn't add up then. In the past two weeks they never once POS hacked, used clipper or related programs? Should be something to ask them before jumping to gearswap, if it was that there would be a LOT more people suspended.

[Malithar]

all it is is white knights arguing and people making up statistics

I'm glad the arguing is back, it's at least entertaining. Seph's make believe statistics just remind me why no one wanted him in LSs. Apply that same "I believe" format with the authoritative tone to ridiculous ideas of strategies for a rough idea of the experience.

[Shenrien]

Doesn't add up then. In the past two weeks they never once POS hacked, used clipper or related programs? Should be something to ask them before jumping to gearswap, if it was that there would be a LOT more people suspended.

Well that's the thing, a lot of people have been banned. Quiet a few claim no clipper or pos hacking tools were used. The number of people banned probably is greater than what is being reported here or on xiah. Most reports seem to be "been temp-banned for speed hacking / pos hacking, logged in after that without using and then was permabanned after." I've been banned before for pos hacking on my main account and have not been slapped again by the ban stick after that mostly because I've been careful of how I use anything because I value what I have, which is reflected on any mule or alt I play on as well.

I haven't played in close to 8 or so months, but if I were I'd probably drop using majority of plugins from windower and just stick to using scripted macros for everything because the risk seems too high to warrent what has been going on lately. Something is going on and it seems to have struck fear in quiet a number of people that maintain a number of plugins that don't seem to be subbed any longer while things either calm down or stop entirely, that to me was probably the biggest red flag to stop using certain plugins if I were playing.

[FaeQueenCory]

If you did 3 KB in a row you had it coming, should have played nice and taken turns in a line. Vana'Diel isn't your oyster to exploit at your leisure, there's other inhabitants coexisting alongside you

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Someone needs to go back and learn what taking turns means.
What was that, preschool?
If you have 5 pops, and it's your turn, you pop 5x and us polite people wait our turns.
Nothing more rude than the asshats who line cut others because "you popped one and I only have one, so now it's my turn!! Mine! Mine! Mine!"...
Hate rude people like that. Go back to kindergarten. In Hell.

I don't want to gouge the people's in uncapped TH with only Thief's Knife poking behemoths to death eyes out... But I certainly do to rude people.