Incursion!

[Sechs]

Omg what was that, Pandemonium Key trade when it was broken right outside Aht Urghan?

[Karizo]

anyone really hate those rabbits? they are the worst when a whirl of claw happens right after a deathspin lol. bye bye brd who happened to be singing in range

[Classikmage]

For those people that like bringing THF to Incursion, but don't want to add them to the melee PT, just a note, THF/RNG with decent gear can easily push 1000+ R Acc solo with Squid Sushi before COR or BRD buffs, and still maintain TH8 in their shots. You could at least have them proc Acid Bolts from a distance.

[Yeager]

For those people that like bringing THF to Incursion, but don't want to add them to the melee PT, just a note, THF/RNG with decent gear can easily push 1000+ R Acc solo with Squid Sushi before COR or BRD buffs, and still maintain TH8 in their shots. You could at least have them proc Acid Bolts from a distance.

That's a pretty good idea, actually. Surely the def. down from the Acid Bolts would stack with the effects of Indi/GEO-Frailty.

[Fwahm]

On that topic, has anyone tested whether Oxidant Bolts have a higher proc rate, or are they just higher DMG?

[dasva]

That's a pretty good idea, actually. Surely the def. down from the Acid Bolts would stack with the effects of Indi/GEO-Frailty.

Of course geo debuffs are there own thing they should stack with all non geo debuffs of the same type

[ronin sparthos]

I thought the add effect bolts had issues with MACC as noted in a SE dev QA? The one where they suggest using macc daggers to compensate.

Either way, isn't it just better to Frightful Roar packs on BLU? They also double as good Winds 'o Promyvion users for the clutch Erases.

[Damane]

I thought the add effect bolts had issues with MACC as noted in a SE dev QA? The one where they suggest using macc daggers to compensate.

Either way, isn't it just better to Frightful Roar packs on BLU? They also double as good Winds 'o Promyvion users for the clutch Erases.

not sure, on paper sounds good, but on very high lvl runs I doubt a BLU is gonna land anything without geo-focus or geo-languar on the mob, could also function as an excellent crowd control.

[Classikmage]

On that topic, has anyone tested whether Oxidant Bolts have a higher proc rate, or are they just higher DMG?

Same proc rate, just higher base damage, and +3 more Ranged Accuracy. The proc rate on Acid Bolts is based on Magic Accuracy, even though the the bolt actually hitting is based on Ranged Accuracy. But all the 119 daggers come with Magic Accuracy on them, not to mention usually the THF that's in the group is usually in an off-PT like, the GEO and RDM that are usually sleeping stuff. So if the THF had access to things like Vex or Languor, it should also help. With enough gear/food though, the THF should be able to sustain his own Ranged Accuracy, I think.

[Classikmage]

Either way, isn't it just better to Frightful Roar packs on BLU? They also double as good Winds 'o Promyvion users for the clutch Erases.

This THF idea is more directed to groups that want to bring a THF already because they want TH8+ on everything, but don't want to use them in the main DD party. Just giving them something else that the THF could be contributing other than just TH.

[fattrav]

Just curious, do sleep bolts work on the NMs?

[Draylo]

I thought the add effect bolts had issues with MACC as noted in a SE dev QA? The one where they suggest using macc daggers to compensate.

Either way, isn't it just better to Frightful Roar packs on BLU? They also double as good Winds 'o Promyvion users for the clutch Erases.

The bolts do proc on the fodder mobs, we have a THF that uses it. It's a little stronger than roar, and most groups only fight one mob at a time in here. Most also bring THF for TH and not really BLU so its decent for a THF to use. I haven't seen it land very frequently on the NMs at higher ilevel though compared to roar.

[Ophannus]

Brd/geo is nice if you roll with yagrush whms. Can give your dds a bit more acc or an extra tick of refresh for your whm. Easy enough to keep mp with tenuto ballads. Another option is /smn for hastega too.

[Dotsudoku]

Both of those sound awful

[Byrthnoth]

I play 6 jobs regularly and I have capes for 19/22 jobs. Four of them are for jobs that I play regularly.

ffffffffffffffffffff

[ccl]

Or you could just use angon for def down.

[shaggnix]

Theres usually a gungnir in the alliance for def down. I've thought of the /smn for hastega thing before, but you have slow on like 70% of the time so without an erase first its mostly pointless.

If you're ever worried your thf isn't THing all the mobs, /blm for sleepga = easy button.

[Damane]

Theres usually a gungnir in the alliance for def down. I've thought of the /smn for hastega thing before, but you have slow on like 70% of the time so without an erase first its mostly pointless.

If you're ever worried your thf isn't THing all the mobs, /blm for sleepga = easy button.

we just roll with idris-indi-haste and 1 march and dont bother with hastes any more, just remove the slow ----> capped haste automaticly for everyone.

[Viar]

That's a pretty good idea, actually. Surely the def. down from the Acid Bolts would stack with the effects of Indi/GEO-Frailty.

THF/COR and light shot dia for 5%~10% more defense down! Although I don't know if /COR works on light shot.

[Malithar]

we just roll with idris-indi-haste and 1 march and dont bother with hastes any more, just remove the slow ----> capped haste automaticly for everyone.

This. Do the same thing in Ouryu as well.